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    There's really nothing to assume. They're all...

    There's really nothing to assume. They're all well-known facts.
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    The "accounts" of the Greek authors on the...

    The "accounts" of the Greek authors on the origins of the Etruscans are all much more recent than the beginning of the Etruscan civilization, at least 500 years later. The first Greek sources...
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    What are you trying to suggest, Torzio? If you're...

    What are you trying to suggest, Torzio? If you're insinuating that sample R850 might be Etruscan, you must have the courage to write it down.

    This reminds me a lot when you always confused the...
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    Thank you, as soon as I have time I read...

    Thank you, as soon as I have time I read everything and I look for more information in the books in Italian, English, French and German that I own. And I answer you.






    Agreed, errors may...
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    Thank you very much, Aspurg. "Dinara culture...

    Thank you very much, Aspurg.

    "Dinara culture has clear ties to Apennine Peninsula". Does it mean to Italy, right?
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    Very interesting, thank you very much Regio X. If...

    Very interesting, thank you very much Regio X. If we really want to face this discussion, however, we must place archaeologically the individual found in Croatia who was J2b2a-L283. It is not enough...
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    If we have only one Y-DNA of an Etruscan, instead...

    If we have only one Y-DNA of an Etruscan, instead on the mtDNA side we have many of them.


    Those published in this study are these and confirm the pattern already seen in the 2013 studies (U5,...
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    We have one Y-DNA, Moesan. It's little to say...

    We have one Y-DNA, Moesan. It's little to say that Y-J2 is from original Etruscans who came from around Pannonia. We have just to wait other papers. For years we have had to undergo many...
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    "instrumenta scriptoria". Basically, the...

    "instrumenta scriptoria".

    Basically, the couple pretended to be of a higher social rank than that to which they actually belonged.

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    He is tought to be Terentius Neo (Neo=New, a new...

    He is tought to be Terentius Neo (Neo=New, a new migrant I suppose), a baker of Samnite descent migrated to Pompei with his wife.


    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrato_de_Paquio_Próculo
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    The sample (a female) from Veio Grotta Gramiccia...

    The sample (a female) from Veio Grotta Gramiccia is labeled in the study as Villanovan and is clearly Etruscan, and the study does not attempt to make her appear as Latin.


    Martinsicuro is a...
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    The 11 Iron age individuals include 7...

    The 11 Iron age individuals include 7 Roman/Latins (R851, R1, R1016, R1021, R435, R437, R850) and 4 Etruscans (R1015, R474, R473, R475). The three outliers are two Roman/Latins (R437, R850) and one...
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    https://i.imgur.com/4XSywLa.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/4XSywLa.jpg
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    Cheesecake is common now in Italy. You can find...

    Cheesecake is common now in Italy. You can find it in the version closest to the original or in some variants more "Italian-like".
  15. I do agree with halfalp that IE studies is such a...

    I do agree with halfalp that IE studies is such a toxic topic.


    Please note that Anton Perdih is a former member of the Faculty of Chemistry and Chemical Technology at the University of Ljubljana.
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    Hi Luis, I suppose you've already seen this ...

    Hi Luis, I suppose you've already seen this

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Z2317/
  17. Everything written by Alinei and Benozzo is...

    Everything written by Alinei and Benozzo is unreliable.
    I can honestly see nothing credible in the approach taken by this study.



    Moesan, it's not really new. It's based on the Paleolithic...
  18. The TMRCA is reported by Yfull and we don't know...

    The TMRCA is reported by Yfull and we don't know how accurate it really is. As you rightly pointed out "I1 suffered an amazing botteneck, as you can notice by the gap between formation (~27500 ybp)...
  19. "haplogroup I1 emerged from the testing of Early...

    "haplogroup I1 emerged from the testing of Early Neolithic Y-DNA from western Hungary (Szécsényi-Nagy et al. (2014)). A single I1 sample was identified alongside a G2a2b sample, both from the early...
  20. It is an unconfirmed rumor and therefore it is...

    It is an unconfirmed rumor and therefore it is clear that it is necessary to wait for the study.






    I1 has a TMRCA of 4600 years. Why on earth should I1 have a distribution centered around...
  21. Very interesting, thanks for sharing kingjohn

    Very interesting, thanks for sharing kingjohn
  22. Yes, of course, but Visigoths and the Longobards...

    Yes, of course, but Visigoths and the Longobards were never so many as to be able to significantly change the genome of all northern Italians. Something they left, we see in the uniparental markers...
  23. The other founding tribes of Rome were the...

    The other founding tribes of Rome were the Sabines, not the Samnites. They are two distinct tribes located in two different areas (the Sabines lived near Rome, east of Rome, the Samnites in the...
  24. Because TSI is the largest Italian sample in that...

    Because TSI is the largest Italian sample in that PCA. I don't know they've all used them, but it's made up of a hundred individuals. The other Italian regional samples are composed of about ten, and...
  25. There are no academic samples of northern...

    There are no academic samples of northern Tuscans, those are the usual HGDP and TSI. The rumours said there was no difference between the Etruscans and the Italics. Perhaps Razib deliberately used...
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