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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    Here is a repition and a summary of my post again since to make it all more simple and let it sink into peoples head. I advice all Albanians to take this and spam it all over the internet. The truth shall be known: It's not just the fact that the bulk of the largest number of people who rallied...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    In this German text below from Kosovo in the 17th century they are referring to the Albanian Catholic Pjeter Bogdani who met the Austrians in Kosovo In Serbian history they basically claim this was Arsenije Crnojevic III but there is no mention of him. The Archbishop of Albania and the...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    It is also mind blowing to me how this is all in the wikipedia section of 'Kosovo' and 'History of Kosovo' claiming it was Arsenije III , there should be put up a discussion there and everything should be removed and this information should be added. Some Albanian or some person that is skilled...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    So it was not Arsenije Crnojevic III but Albanian Catholic Pjeter Bogdani who led a resistance against Ottomans. - Rebels, Believers, Survivors.
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    For example the German letter that I posted regarding Kosova in the 1600's and the Austrian Ottoman Wars, the part where it mentions the Archbishop of Albania and it mentions Patriarch of Clemente and Prizren being capital of Albania. It might look like it mentions two different people but it is...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    My whole point is that Kosova had a large Albanian population before 1690, I don't know how this Albanian demographic growth in Kosova occurred but it certainly did not start any kind of ethno-nationalist conflict or some kind of genocide on Serbs. Nor evidence of some kind of loyal Albanian...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    Some more 'Loyal Servant'
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    Here we have another 'loyal Servant' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idriz_Seferi Why is this forum so incredibly buggy btw ?
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    Yeah, he was quite the loyal servant Nice cherry picking. This idea that Balkan nations have been trying constantly to throw off Ottoman rule is nothing but a nationalist myth. By your logic I guess we were all loyal servants ? No according to your logic it was only Albanians, they all...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    I personally don't see what this thread has anything to do with many Albanians being loyal to the Ottomans (Something many other Balkan people were too, used to even be lots of Greek Muslims, Turkified Muslims, Bulgarian Muslims, Serbian Muslims if you wanna relate religious affiliation to...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    QUOTE: '' And a further complication is introduced by the term 'Arnaut', which could be used as a synonym for Albanian but tended to suggest those Albanians (in the ethnic-linguistic sense) who acted as soldiers for the Ottomans-though these it should be noted included Catholic Albanians as...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    Prizren was mostly Muslim, Vushtrri etc was mostly Muslim. The guy who led the anti-Ottoman resistance was Bogdani, a Catholic, but there were both Muslims and Catholics in the ranks. The 5,000 Arnauts mentioned were mostly Muslim, many if not most of the 20,000 Arnauts mentioned were also...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    I am also not sure what the whole Kosova case has anything to do with some what the guy claims were 'loyal' Pashas in Albania. How does this prove the whole Serbian nationalist narrative which seems to be completely false ?
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    Many Albanians in Kosova were already Muslims actually. Prizren in Kosova was mostly Muslim Albanian, so was Vushtrri etc. Many of these people who revolted were Muslim and they are mentioned as Muslim who had formerly fought in the Ottoman ranks and were paid wages, some are mentioned as...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    Once again I have to repeat myself, In Kosova/Northern Albania far more people supported the Austrians than Ottomans. You can just look at the numbers. Prizren was an Albanian town. Western Kosova had an Albanian majority yet you claim this is nationalistic nonsense when we are literally using...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    I would actually say that it's possible Albanians developed a national unity or some kind of a national counsciousness under Skanderbeg who led resistance against the Ottomans. Albanians were one of the last people to be fully occupied by the Ottomans. After his death people kept putting up...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    It's also interesting how the Serbs cling on to Kosova, while they also occupied Macedonia and modern Albania, colonization of Macedonia etc, and they also took Vojvodina from the Hungarians which the Serbs had settled during the Ottoman period from Serbia proper. At the same time they were...
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    Kosovo: Albanian Anti-Ottoman revolt (1690)

    You are doing nothing but cherrypicking actually. Some Pashas in Albania etc do not support that our people were loyal Ottoman Servants when we are talking about the vast majority of the population. No sources support that there was any kind of ethno-nationalist conflict in the Balkans before...
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