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And the Turkic speaking groups are the best example of why even the most admixed groups still show signs of their ancestors in their DNA. You are making the mistake that you equate Turkic with East Eurasian DNA. But even the most pure Turkic speaking groups are at least 25% West Eurasian. Take...

Well that could be... if we found any EHG signs, remember no additional EHG in Anatolian Samples and the yDNA does not fit the Steppes. Just that Hittite is not a "invasive culture". You are missing out allot here. You might have not known but by the time of the early Hittites there were no...

That is some bold statement and there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever for that my friend. Only some wishfull thinking of some bloggers. Hittites and Hattians became pretty much one and the same people (they basically merged). And their number was most likely equal. If there was even 10%...

Wagons are crucial for a mobile nomadic people to move around. Especially for nomadic herders who need to change places for seasonal farming. Bronze is crucial for conquering other regions. And most importantly stock breeding is essential to survive at some places on the Steppes. All three are...

I agree with you here. I actually argued J1 in Karelia might not be an outlier. Actually quite frankly I discussed with people on Eurogenes who are biased as hell for a Steppe homeland that J1 in Karelia might most likely demonstrate that some J lineages could be EHG by source. But they simply...

Maikop predates Yamnaya by some hundred years and as we know from archeology most of the ideas and inventions went from south to north. Maikop had wagons before the Steppes. Bronze was certanly earlier in Maikop than Steppes. Maikop is central to allot of invention. Actually almost every...

Actually what I find quite hilarious is how we all with the arrival of this paper focused again on R1b and completely missed out the absence of it in those Hittite samples. And no one even noticed or bothered to mentioned that the early Maikop y and aDNA fits well fith those Hittite samples...

Do you see the contraditicion yourself? I know the R1b was from Maikop Steppe this is why I wrote it is most likely a late arrival from Steppe cultures. Therefore plays no role for my theory. Also did you know that there was no R1b found in Hittite samples. The Hittite samples were G2a and J1...

This is a very very unlikely scenario considering the very little time gap between the proposed dispersal of Steppe Indo Europeans and the age of these Hittite Bronze Age samples. if these Hittites really came from a roughly ~40-50% EHG source. You would need at least a century until the EHG...

Because EEF = ANF. The samples EEF were modeled after (Stuttgart) were basically 95% ANF + 5% WHG.

local anomaly. The samples are from the Kordestan province. A region known to have been the capital of the Royal Scythians in Western Asia with their capital City of Saqqez. Kurds from Kirmashan and Urmiya are heavy in R1b.

I think people didn't notice here the R1b found in Maykop might actually be a late Steppe arrival in the culture. Probably coming to Maykop after Steppe Indo European culture was formed. Imo it went this way Northwest Iran/Leyla Tepe => North Caucasus => Steppe=> back to Maykop. Also keep...

^this That is the most likely scenario in some samples form the Caucasus they found DNA formerly attributed to younger EHG samples. CHG admixture in the Steppes must be from several waves. The eariest reaching the region during early Neolithic or maybe Mesolithic. All the way into...

They possibly got their hands on some samples from the Caucasus that show some of the genes previously thought to be EHG are actually CHG like.

Holy crap Steppe Maykop far more EHG than Yamnaya? As I wrote in a post at the Central_ South Asian thread. How does this work with the narrative "EHG exclusive to north like Steppe/East Europe, CHG/Iran_Neo exclusive Iranian Plateau_Caucasus"? How can a part of a southern culture have more EHG...

Made me lol, considering me trying to tell those guys how on earth could you expect or be so sure that there was no EHG related ancestry in the Caucasus and adjusting region already by Late_Neolithic. I was 100% convinced we would find EHG like ancestry in Caucasus.

Thats why I asked. appeared kind of weird to me. Wanted to be sure before I make a judgement about you. That's why I called you out.

Why the neg rating IronSide. Too much science or too much Kurdish?

Leyla Tepe Kurgans predate Yamnaya and are contemporaneous with those from Khvalynsk or maybe a little older.

Correct but that doesn't play a role for the place of origin. As you know Yamnaya also had allot of CHG. What I am trying to explain here is, that EHG could have been widespred in some parts of West Asia already by Neolithic_Calcolthic. So Even if we find EHG in some Hittite samples that...