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    Where did the Anatolian branch of Indo-European originate?

    Let me answer your question with a question. Can you guarantee me that the EHG we find in Iron Age Indo European speakers comes from the Steppes and not some other source? Can you guarantee me that the EHG we find in CWC culture is not of local non Indo European Baltic H&G origin but comes...
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    Where did the Anatolian branch of Indo-European originate?

    I don't understand how people can connect every expansion of genetic populations such as CHG/Iran_Meso, EHG, WHG to a single language family. Like for real those components are as far as of mesolithic age! That means some parts of the Near East could be full of non-IE-CHG population but still...
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    Where did the Anatolian branch of Indo-European originate?

    That snake thing is really sitting deep in IE cultures. The legend about the Kurdish origins goes this way, There was a blacksmith called Kawa who killed a tyranic King,who grew Snakes out of his shoulders and those snakes had to be fed with brains of young boys and girls. He brought these kids...
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    Where did the Anatolian branch of Indo-European originate?

    And that might be the reason why scientists speak of PIE and LPIE. LPIE could almost be considered it's own branch. We are indeed talking here about Hittite vs all other Indo European families. A very possible theory PPIE--> Steppe Indo European/Hittite Hittite could very well have diverged...
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    Where did the Anatolian branch of Indo-European originate?

    Even finding a little EHG admixture in the region is not a strong argument imo. It's like we could guarante that EHG admixture never reached the South before the Indo Europeans. As we can read from the paper. They seem to have found some EHG even in Maykop. What if there is some in Leyla Tepe...
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    Where did the Anatolian branch of Indo-European originate?

    Johen the earliest inhabitants of Anatolia were Early_Anatolian Farmers/EEF. Hittites seems to be a mix of CHG and Ana_Neo.
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    Where did the Anatolian branch of Indo-European originate?

    What I dislike is that they talk about there being non-IE-speaking populations associated with CHG as if All EHG is associated with is IE. Finno_Ugrics?
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    If all samples from Bronze Age to Calcolthic from certain area can be modeled to have "some Steppe" admixture. And you find "Steppe" admixture in form of EHG in CHG samples and even some Iran_Mesolithic samples. As well some EHG individuals showing signs of CHG affinity you should start looking...
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    Not only you.... keep in mind I was banned from there for calling out a blogger as "biased" and nothing more.
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    As Angela predicted, a certain blogger "managed" to squeeze some Steppe admixture from Hajji Firuz sample and declared him as Yamnaya individual. If he tries hard enough he might be able to squeeze some Steppe admixture out of the Hausa People with their dubious R1b-V88. If I remember correctly...
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    tbf if anything the Iranian Plateau is understudied. Europe is the most overstudied part. And withing West Asia /Near East the Iranian Plateau is one of the most understudied.
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    I like that part.
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    I would be cautios with that, what hasn't been found can still pop up. Remember that J1 EHG sample from mesolithic Keralia? I still argue if we find J1 during the mesolithic in the North and J samples south of Yamnaya I would honestly be suprised to not find any in Yamnaya or surroundings. But...
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    Underhill pointed out based on samples collected, that the oldest R1b and R1a clades are found there. And based on this the conclusion of the paper was that both Haplogroups originated at this place. And Goga the biggest defender of this idea was also one of the rare cases who belonged to R1a...
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    No one was talking about the origin of R1b and R1a as a whole. R1b being in West Asia pre Bronze Age is only important for the dispersal and origin of PIE family not R1b as a whole. R1b and R1a could have evolved somewhere in Central Asia sometime during the mesolithic or paleolithic. It...
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    That is some real nonsense here, especially considering the fact that this was all well discussed already. There are surviving texts from Khotanese Scythian in West China. They were identified as East Iranic. It is historically well documented that Sogdhian is descend of Scythian and that...
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    "various "languages that all belonged to the same branch of the same family. Never heard that Thracians were included among Scythians. Only that some tribes within the Thracian are considered to be descend of Scythian or Scythian like groups. Such as the Getae being derived from the Massagetae...
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    Iran_Neo being a Elamo_Dravidian language is as much possible as EHG being Finno_Ugric. I doubt this kind of mesolithic old ancestries only belonged to a single language family. Iran_Neo could be as much a Elamo_Dravidian and PIE component as EHG could be Finno_Ugric and PIE. This is no argument...
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    Where did proto-IE language start?

    That was in the past, in the last years the Leyla Tepe/Maykop/KuraAraxes-Iranian Plateau connection looks stronger. Not meaning there was no influx from Uruk too.
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    Central and South Asian DNA Paper

    Well actually it is, NW Iran is a hotspot of R1b, especially m269, l23 and some m343 thrown in it.
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