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It's interesting because they reflect the history of the region since antiquatty to the modern day. Unlike other places there has not been a founder's effect or a population replacement. But I would say the genetics of Turkey, albania and Sicily are equally interesting for the same reasons

1) Sorry about the paragraphs. 2) I most definitely do not demand expect or hope you fully trust what I am saying. Doubt, questioning and criticism are important 3) I never questioned the science behind the subclade in the Cyclades. If you read my dialogue with cybernautic you'll see that I...

I meant that I am sceptic about the sample size and it's verification. I do not trust Eupedia for such in depth analysis.

I am sceptic about the one in Cyclades. It could be a recent mutation. It may be that our sample size is very small. It could be a certain colonisation of the islands before the Mycenaean period. Sample sizes make conclusions with that accuracy problematic

It most likely arrived to the peloponnese from somewhere. I don't know though if this was in late pre historic times. It totally could be there for many thousands year's, seeing how haplogroup E arrived in Europe ~25.000 years ago. Judging by it existing from Serbia to Crete, it's totally...

Yeah I know what you mean. It's clear that southern Italy and southern balkans have historic and subsequently genetic ties. It could be possible Also for Dorian's to have some I2 a different subclade than the slavic one, but many Cretans have I2 and crete was Also colonized by Dorian's. I...

Well yes I guess. But In such a tight and interconnected geographic area such as the Southern Balkans especially if we consider that this is the region where this particular haplogroup E v13 appeared there it would be very hard to relate a specific subclades to a specific region. But maybe it...

First of all. You sound like the guy, who has a conclusion before looking into it. And then he rushes to create an images to prove the pre concluded scenario. If you know villages in Arcadia, or anywhere else for that matter, where Arvanites, were assimlated, (BEFORE THE 19YH CENTURY) I'd...

I've seen all of you big brain's talking about genes etc. Let me add to the discussion a historical fact. Let's answer the question "what happened to the Arvanites of thessaly?". Short answer: The Arvanites of southern Greece happened. Medium range answer: FINISH THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE BEFORE...

I am not having a hard time counting the Arvanites at all! I wrote my thesis on them. I didn't refer to Greek sources aside of Korilos corrections. I referred to Finlay, Philpson, Hahn. And honestly, Finley gave a lower number than what I did (100.000) while Hahn who wrote about the 174.000...

And apparently I was being stupid. Sorry. I am having a hard time telling sarcasm online. Text message and the many albanians actually believing those things make it even harder.

I was under the impression this was a serious chat Room. Let me explain you a thing or two. 1)Haplogroups don't correspond with ethnc groups. (Haplogroup E is common throughout Greece, southern Italy and the Balkans). 2) Skull shapes do not correspond with ethnic groups, this is 19th century...

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Dear friend. I will presume that your interest on this matter is genuine. So I'll answer you likewise. The arrival and settlement of the Arvanites in Greece, has been perhaps the least studied part of the history of the region. And by least, I mean hardly anyone studied before the second world...

I am not talking about the Central_Greek on Gedmatch. There is a different category called Greek_Attica. A sample collected From an inhabitant with full ancestry From Attica, a region with high degrees of endogamy. The sample was extremely close to Eastern Sicily. The center of Greek...

You are painfully wrong. For starters. In the pelloponese, the total population of Turks (Muslims) was 42.750 before the revolution, not 100.000. After the revolution, the total Turkish Population of Greece was 0. This can be found in various sources. Such as the correspondence of the Greek...