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@maciamo can you advice about my post just above?...

Very interesting posts guys, everyone is welcome to share their point or theories and any other data... We still need more data for sure, old data I mean since the modern ones I believe would only confuse us even more... Angela mentioned that Pelasgian as a word might mean just a region and...

I said about this individual (Aspurg) that he concludes something one just argues or gives supposition about :laughing: I supposed that E-V13 might have moved to some extent to South East Europe from late Vinca Culture, to some extent where it might have came...

Can you detail again what you were right about Vinca connection?

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Again no one said E-V13 spread with Vinca culture, Again you are interpreting my thought wrong and you are concluding something I am supposing and which I am not even concluding myself :laughing: Also again, show more sources and dont only list your suppositions or you crap lol, on the other...

So from these more reliable date we have: Greek/Thessaly in the exact same cluster with Albanians, also same cluster just a hair further with Greek/Greek Central Macedonia We know that and we dont want to mix the EEF, ANE and WHG, which are part of autosomal (whole genome - Y DNA)...

Thx for sharing the exact info, I believe current modern population of Bulgaria would be more differentiated yes, but i would definitely not exclude North Macedonia to some extent... Ralph & Coop mentioned "On the other hand, they are not wholly isolated or endogamous because Greek and...

However if we are talking about Greek genetics and relation with Mycenaeans and Minoans then we cannot exclude Albanian genetics also because they have the closest match rather identical with all the other close neighbors, I would also not exclude Bulgarian nor North Macedonian genetics. Havent...

INDEED CULTURALLY, SO ACTUALLY SERBS R1A 16% ONLY? IT WOULD BE LIKE AROUND 16% OF SLAVS CAME TO THOSE REGIONS AND ASSIMIALTED WHOLE THAT REGION INCLUDING THE LANGUAGE, IT WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE REGIONS SPOKE BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF SLAVIC LANGUAGE, AND STUDIES SHOWED ALSO THAT...

NO NEED TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE AT ALL :grin:

VERY INTERESTING INDEED, I DIDNT KNOW EVEN J2b IS CLOSEST TO GREEKS AND ALBANIANS, E-V13 IS EVEN CLOSER TO GREEKS AND ALBANIANS SO TO R1B, OR MAYBE THIS J2B WELL IS FROM YOU ONLY AND DONT WANT TO GENERALIZE, HOWEVER AS FAR AS CLOSEST DNA MATCHES WITH MOST OR ALMOST ALL HAPLOGROUPS, I CAN SAY...

i do not have much knowledge about serbs but i do believe they are not all slavs at all, very simple just look at their dna, i have posted before about their dna into pelasgian pre ancient greeks< would their dna be ev13 post, now maybe you mean they might be slavinez much more then what their...

Again you are interpreting my thought wrong and you are concluding something I am supposing and which I am not even concluding myself :laughing: Never said E-V13 expanded from Vinca, at 4500 BC I believe E=V13 was already expanded all around Europe, didnt you say 7000 BC E-V13 is mutated in...

Read the Archeology part above, I dont want to copy paste here again, it might not be much however as they were called Barbarian they might have not been the masters of buildings objects etc but there is a link as it is said on the sources! Nevertheles the findings in short "on the Athenian...

I would like to elaborate here more from you, and as this thread is about Pelasgians then we should dwell more into Pelasg and possible E-V13. Can you share references for ''Pelasgian is just a broad term used by the Greeks most likely to refer to several different populations''? I believe...

Pelasgians descend from Etruscans or the other way? The Etruscan civilization was at its height c. 500 BC, where Homer mentioned Pelasgians before ancient greeks :laughing: You seem to misunderstang my point for unknown reason, I always mean in proportions and percentages because people moved...

Wow wow wow, how dumb am I? ADMINISTRATOR please BAN this individual, no one has the right here to call someone dumb, especially when I argue that it is a supposition. Dude you clearly have some kind of a problem, I am also not talking about huge expansions here, but small numbers, if we found...

Might be Cetina culture, but I think it should have happened much longet time ago, probably around or at least 4000 BC, it cant be that late if we already found E-V13 in Spain was it around 6000 BC? So why the spread that late, I am sure Vinca carried some E-V13 as well... And Pelasgian were...

Well you might have not read all of my post, I never said E-V13 was the main carrier of the neolithic revolution, was talking about a later time or in smaller numbers, so in one word they came from far north Africa through Iberia Itali Greece, in around 6000 BC, gathered more in around Vinca, of...