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If i might guess all the dna facts links to E-V13, and i believe the majority of ancient tribes who lived in those areas E-V13 were Pelazgians (as a majority, as other tribes and haplogroups would have been there as a mix for sure), now call them illyrian or pelazgian am not sure, i am more into...

Please read my earlier posts in this thread, because Albanians have the highest % of E-V13 in the world then it is very unlikely that they have come from north of Black Sea. If you read more about E-V13 then you will have a better understanding. On the other side even if lets say the Albanians...

Maciamo was arguing that E-V13 didn't came from Levant nor Anatolia. Therefore it didn't mixed with J2 or other haplogroups. FYI, y dna (E-V13) cannot be mixed with say J2, admixed with lets say when E-V13 was there J2 came and admixed, meaning from there both y dna might have mixed with female...

I see here Albanian and Hellenic separate at 1,000 BC which is 3,000 years, the other source shows 5,000 years ago Albanian and Greek separate... I don't understand what are you referring too....

It is clearly showing that Greek and Albanian were already separate and old 5,000 years ago. there are no splits here.... It also shows on the map that the Albanian speaking regions were in the area of todays Albania, Kosovo, west Montenegro, south Serbia, the whole of todays Macedonia, south...

There are couple of scientific papers done and therefore it came up with the table i have showed in regards to dna by ethnicity. I meant how can we find all those Albanians from those scientific papers and familytreedna and 23andme, and have all their details described here, like their region...

According to recent and older scientific research Albanian and Greek Languages are 5,000 years OLD, What comments you have about this?...please share any scientific papers and not just your thoughts and being ironical and saying this is nonsense... Sources...

Skerdilaidas.... is there any chance we can gather all those tested from familytreedna.com here? I would be interested to conduct a research paper in regards to y dna of Albanian speaking regions.

Thanks for sharing this, i think https://www.familytreedna.com/ might be better (not so certain though), a buddy Maleth from Malta who is E-V13 strangely discovered through his surname that it came from Germanic region, but not to confuse this as he also noted that before E-V13 went to Germany...

That is argued by Maciamo the creator of this website (not by me)...read more about E-V13 from Maciamo thread.... FYI..... Y dna cannot be mixed, cannot change, it might mutate through time with thousands of years but not changed through others, it is from male. I dont understand what you mean...

thanks for sharing this Skerdilaidas....how much accurate is tribecode?...has anyone used it?...will it give more detailed subclades? am not sure if this one works here in Canada...

Maleth, Very interesting indeed...and also it came as a shock to me as of how as you are E-V13, with your surname history it comes up it originated from germanic origin... well humans migrated all around so we might never know exactly and at which period they have moved...could have been also...

Maleth, when u did your dna did it show also that you are E-V13?...i am hearing that it only shows that you fall in E1b1b....

Yes, as i have noted it could had came to the Balkans before it even went to the west. Actually it came to the balkans first because it couldn't reach the other way around to British isles Although R1b found a home on the current celtic areas for whatever reasons. Because they have the highest...

I was born in Prishtina and will be doing DNA test soon..... This is what we have so far for Albanians... Region/Haplogroup I1 I2*/I2a I2b R1a R1b G J2 J*/J1 E-V13 Albania 2 12 1.5 9 16 1.5 19.5 2 27.5 Kosovo Albanians 5.5 2.5 0 4.5 21 0 16.5 0 47.5...

That is correct. And the E-V13 that we find in Europe is a subclade of E-M78 and at berbers is only 5%.

According to recent scientific DNA facts the map you have showed is not even close....taking Spain in the same subclade with berbers, then south France south Itali, and also south Greece. Of course they would have some of the same DNA but actually at the lowest percentages... Also, South Greece...

So are you pointing that Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37% of E-V13? As per Italy...I have found very high E-V13 in some areas above 28% (see table) Italians (South) IE (Italic) 68 25.0 3.0 6.0 26.0 — 15.0 — 3.0 — Zalloua2008[31] Italians (Sicily) IE (Italic) — — 8.8 27.3...

I dont see how religion would have any effect on this....Just during the Otoman empire and when Gjergj Kastrioti skanderbeg died January 17, 1468, it was the same religion in those areas....In addition if you have seen the table above how come then Peleponnese area have 47 % of E-V13 and Kosovo...

Yes i think so too, E-M78 (maybe even very small groups) came directly to (South East balkans) 9,000 years ago and from there mutated and formed E-V13, then from there since that time spread out through Europe slowly....on the other side E-M78 which is at the very north east Africa is 18.000...