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    E-V13 subclades in Greece

    There's no evidence for this, come on.
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    E-V13 subclades in Greece

    You are reading too much into it. We are only interested in the fact that Homer places an unidentified ethnos between Greeks and Thracians in the Thessalian plain and southern Thrace. This group is the only possible candidate for an expansion in the Bronze Age. Thracian is too young, and shares...
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    E-V13 subclades in Greece

    The Thracians were so thoroughly nomadic they had a taboo on agriculture. Plutarch still refers to Spartacus as a nomad, indicating that they never became sedentary. If one sees the Thracians as northern invaders, the problem of the earliest ethnographic account of the region in which Homer...
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    E-V13 subclades in Greece

    This is impossible, Thracian shows clear developments that place it with the northern IE languages, in particular B-S. The arrival of the nomadic Thracians in the regions we know them to have lived in might have been quite late. An early to middle Bronze Age diversification of E-V13 can only...
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    E-V13 subclades in Greece

    We don't really know whether Illyrian was Centum or Satem, and Proto-Albanian was in all likelihood neither (splitting off before the development of those isoglosses, like the Anatolian languages). It is possible that archaic Albanian languages predated Thracian in the wider Balkanic region...
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    Latest Reich talk on ancient Dna

    Could a group of M269 WHGs/EHGs have survived in some unlikely place in Europe before it got to the steppe? Mainland Italy maybe, or the Alps, Carpathians or what have you?
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    Neolithic, Chalcolithic Northern Mesopotamia and Levant

    The area is very understudied. Afaik agriculture begins in the interior of the peninsula around 3000 BC. The oases and the coasts were populated long before that. The only complete description of one of those populations thus far is this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2653051
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    Neolithic, Chalcolithic Northern Mesopotamia and Levant

    Exactly, that's why Gulf Arabs have no strong affinity to other Middle Easterners. Along the Gulf there were hunters and fishers who never adopted agriculture until around 3000 B.C. . Afaik the Sumerians considered Bahrain the ancestral homeland of some of their rulers.
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    Bronze Age Vucedol Culture R1b Z2103 / L23

    I thought this would be common knowledge by now, but the 'Balkanic' populations are defined by their divergence towards the Caucasus/Iran. EEF admixture doesn't suffice - the LBA/IA samples look Iberian because they don't have extra CHG.
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    Bronze Age Vucedol Culture R1b Z2103 / L23

    The difference between Iberians and Albanians/Tuscans is actually not trivial. It would require like 50% replacement with Greeks as source of admixture. I find this very unlikely.
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    News Article on Wang Paper - PIE is Anatolian again?

    I guess it depends on whether Anatolians can be shown to have steppe ancestry. I think they probably won't have any. Between ANF and CHG I think the latter looks like a more obvious contender for Hattian and Kaskian, no? In that case I think Anatolian might have expanded before the Hattians...
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    Bronze Age Vucedol Culture R1b Z2103 / L23

    The Montenegrin samples are closest to Iberians and Czechs respectively. Albanians have a significant shift towards the Near East, so it is impossible they derive significant ancestry from the LBA/IA West Balkans unless the Romans settled the place with Syrians. If you mix BA/IA West Balkans...
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    News Article on Wang Paper - PIE is Anatolian again?

    Has this really been demonstrated convincingly? I've been wondering myself. Caucasus admixture as Hattian signal seems to make sense. Related: https://colchianstudies.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/singer__kaska__phasis_20071.pdf
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    News Article on Wang Paper - PIE is Anatolian again?

    Hattians perhaps?
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    10/25 R1b-V88 in ancient Sardinia

    Surely Songhai-Saharian must be quite young, and a result of the population movements that actually settled the regions in question. Where do autosomally Niger-Congo and Nilo-Saharan populations come from? I would think that if Green Sahara pastoralists had been involved in the population...
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    10/25 R1b-V88 in ancient Sardinia

    I don't know. I suppose the dynamic would have been the same. There's also the weird case of the NS Daza with 45% T and litttle J1. What's the explanation for this if not late introgression? Admittedly the pattern is weird, and late introgression requires strong founder effects. Afaik there's...
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    10/25 R1b-V88 in ancient Sardinia

    There's a complete absence of material until the middle of the second millennium BC, when the Gajiganna Neolithic appears. These people as you would expect are extremely tall and have West Arican/Nilotic morphologies. They settled the region, so for V88 to be local they need to have had it...
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    10/25 R1b-V88 in ancient Sardinia

    It depends on which Arabic population took control of the region. While they were probably not involved in the wider Arab expansions, there are for example the Jordan Valley Arabs who reportedly only have 9% J1 but 40% R1b. Baggara Arabs don't have that much J1 either to my knowledge, and...
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    10/25 R1b-V88 in ancient Sardinia

    V2197/Y8451 arose in the early Neolithic, so there's no real necessity to posit a complex migration. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most Africans fall under Bronze Age V69 that they share with Arabs.
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    10/25 R1b-V88 in ancient Sardinia

    There are plenty Arabs under V2197/Y8451. It doesn't occur in Sahel populations without recent Arabian ancestry.
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