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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Sorry, what I meant to say is that by haplogroups they are mix of Indo-Europeans and proto-Europeans, not by autosomal DNA... I do not know much about lactose tolerance so I'm going to skip that part. But part when you claim that light skin gene is of only Indo-European origin is a big lie...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Of course Goths were not mountain people, but they, as a pre-Slavic population of western Balkans settled mountains and unaccessible areas when Slavs and Avars came, and that is where we find up to 70 percent of I2a1b (Herzegovina Croats, west Montenegro, etc...). In other words, they inhabited...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Please... Germanic peoples are linguistically Indo-Europeans, ethnically (or should I say genetically) they are mix of Indo-Europeans and proto-Europeans. Slavic peoples are mainly Indo-European both linguistically and ethnically. BTW Germanic languages have lots of words of non-Indo-European...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    I do not try to make "Germanicness" of everything. Of course Goths did mix with other peoples, but what are you trying to say is that they got mongrelized and mixed with other people before they even arrived to eastern Europe, which of course, is not true. No. They were Germanics who later...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    They did not came from specifically those parts... so Ukraine has 11 percent. And even if whole Ukraine had 22 percent it still would not explain lack of R1a and great regional differences here. I am talking about Slavs in general... and, it is not just about mountains. It is about type of...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Most peoples in Europe at that period were occupied with agriculture, they were not hunter-gatherers, for God's sake... the real question is: to what extent were they occupied with agriculture? Read Germania, then read sources about Slavs. From his writings you can clearly see he examined...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    No. First one came from Moravia (west Slavic lands) around 550, and second one from east came after Lombards retreated from Italy. I don't know for sources which claim that one from east Slavic lands was more numerous. After all Slovene (and other Yugoslavian) populations have much higher...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Listen... That area you refer where Slavs came from was inhabited by Slavs for long time. In my language it is called "Vlach plain" (Vlaška nizija), don't know what is English name, but it is basically area around Bulgaria north of Danube. That is where Slavic tribes lived for a long time, and...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Obsolete? How come? Racial anthropology has been drastically politicized since the end of world war, and since then anthropologists began stopping with any racial classifications defining it as "racist" and denying existence of subracial types in Europe. One of best anthropologists of his time...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Nope... Goths did come from Northern Poland, but settled in western Ukraine/southern Poland very early. According to Coon and his work "The Races of Europe" Gothic skeletons from Chersonese region in Crimea are dated very early- from 100 B.C to 100 A.D., then you can imagine how early they came...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    I am not talking about haplogroup continuity in Scandinavians. Haplogroups do not tell much about you. You can be I1 African. I am talking about autosomal DNA. When autosomal DNA was compared, Scandinavians (together with some Baltics) were matched closest with those Western Hunter Gatherers...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    ^continuing last post According to all historical sources Herzegovinians and Slavonians are considered as same Croats. Yet they are so different. Most of our medieval historical sources say that people of Dinaric Alps is descended from Goths. As Thomas Archdeacon says, Croats are descended...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    That is pure BS. Goths occupied both north and west of present day Ukraine. I must admit that this was a good deception you tried to pass but unfortunately it doesn't work for me. Check out this map: If I2a1b is Slavic- why is it not found in any slightly larger quantity in other Slavic lands...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    This still doesn't explain it and perfectly supports my theory. Why is there so much difference between Hezegovina and Slavonia Croats? Don't they all descend from same Slavs? Why do then Slavonians have over 50 percent of R1a and Herzegovinians and Montenegrins have only about 6 percent of R1a...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Well I need more evidence to even consider Cimmerians as carriers of I2a Din...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Paleolithic continuity theory is outdated, so only two possible carriers that could have brought it in such a large number were Goths and Slavs. I assume it is much more probable that Goths brought I2a Din rather than Slavs. Yes, they assume it is Slavic only because Yugoslavians are...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    I expect Poles and Balkan Slavs to have same percentage of haplogroups, because that is where Balkan Slavs came from, according to current official version of history. I don't think concentration of R1a can shrink from 56 percent in Poles (where Croatian homeland was), to under 15 percent in...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    There is no historical proof for Goths assimilating other peoples. Goths left remnants of course, but not very large (in Poland). And we still don't know how much connection do eastern Germanic peoples of Goths and Vandals have with other Germanic peoples. But let's ask counter-question: if I2a...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    I think concentrations are more important than you think, and concentrations can not fluctuate independently on every location. Why? Because it is not the way Germanic peoples migrated. Germanic tribes migrated en-masse, taking all of tribe members with them, so what we got after they left were...
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    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Can you please explain to me how are Goths and R1b-U106 connected? It's maximum concentrations are far from lands Goths inhabited. I wasn't talking about diversity pattern, what I meant was concentration. You can perfectly see how concentration steadily increases when we follow their migrations...
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