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I'll try and locate the RL-21 ancestry information. Most of the maps on here are inaccurate...

I'm also RL-21 and my family as a whole comes from NW Iberia, Spain and Portugal.

The posted map is outdated since it does not include the latest Iberian findings from the R-L21 Ancestry Project, which shows an increasing number of Spaniards and Portuguese testing as R-21. The R-21 percentages in Iberia are likely significantly higher today. I believe one of Eupedia's...

Quite right. Haplogroups are only useful in giving us clues about ancient population migrations, nothing more. On the other hand, autosomal DNA provides us with a full heritage picture.

Not Iberians who are native, as a general rule. West is west and east is east.

Sicilians are very diverse. Generally speaking, the only "overlap" I see is with Greeks, Italians from the south, Maltese and Levantines.

I have seen exceedingly few who could "pass" in France, Portugal and Spain. Malta and Cyprus would be where SOME could blend in.

Check the latest autosomal DNA statistics.

No kidding. The very notion is ludicrous... Something else to consider. The small number of Berber markers in Iberia are very ancient (Mesolithic or Neolithic) and have no impact on the phenotypes of AUTOCHTHONOUS Iberians. End of story. This is a useless thread that needs to be...

Just another malicious hater... sociopath.

Unstable and terribly misinformed...

When you get your raw results, have them undergo "deep analysis" with Eurogenes or Dodecad.

@Wormhole What's your point? Let's put it this way, your agenda, ostensibly motivated by racial insecurity, doesn't work here - absurd. The majority fraction of Spaniards and Portuguese are Atlantic in phenotype; evidenced by ~ 50% Northern, North-west and Eastern European autosomal DNA (an...

Malta, Sicily, Southern Italy and Cyprus. Some of the examples might pass in the Canaries, but NATIVES from there are not genetically European / Spaniard.

Funny how obviously racially insecure, social anxiety driven characters keep showing up here.

The great majority of Haplogroup studies (they have practically no significance with respect to full heritage) that Wormhole is quoting are outdated and some are very deficient, methodologically. Case in point, the Alcacer do Sal "research"; treated as "laughable" now-a-days by serious...

Look at the aDNA figures provided by Eurogenes. Haplogroups only provide information with respect to ancient migration patterns.

Good points. I agree...

I agree generally, but what constitutes a Celtic language is currently strongly debated. Venetic is not Celtic, but not necessarily because of *p retention. Example: Lusitanian is codified as, at least, Para-Celtic - and some distinguished linguists such as Untermman (1996) see it as fully...

DNA obviously behaves randomly and population groups who cluster closely autosomally does not mean they will always resemble each other phenotypically. However, the groupings will share some physical traits and sometimes many...a roll of the dice.