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  1. Demetrios

    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    That is also evident via the toponymes, with the south having a larger concentration compared to the north. For example look at the following map, with the red dots representing Slavic toponymes, https://smerdaleos.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/albslav-toponyms.png. Obviously earlier...
  2. Demetrios

    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Lichada is a settlement with a name that is traced to Greek antiquity. It comes from Heracle's servant Lichas, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichas, which is also responsible for the local mountain Lichas and the neighboring 7 islands Lichades, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichades. It wasn't...
  3. Demetrios

    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    In the General Settings and under "Messaging & Notification" there is "Deffault Thread Subscription Mode" and the option "Instantly, using email". I usually receive notifications in my email after some minutes or hours, but i was notified of @ihype02's and @torzio's comment (of which i had...
  4. Demetrios

    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Venetian dominion on Peloponnese in the end of the 15th and beginning of the 16th century was limited to a few cities/ports, such those of Argos, Modon (Methoni), Coroni, Monemvasia, Naflion, and Patras. It is from these "free" ports that the boarding on to ships and migration was only possible...
  5. Demetrios

    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    I am careful/meticulous towards your comment, it's just that i don't think you understand the significance for the absence of Albanian members under I-Y18331. Only one exists with a young TMRCA of 275 ybp, out of the dozens of Greek, Jewish, a few Slavic (around four i believe), and a Chuvash...
  6. Demetrios

    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    I didn't receive any notification for some reason, while i just received notification of torzio's and ihype02's comments. It's true that the island of Zakynthos received Greek, Arvanite, Italian, Aromanian and Jewish migrants during the end of the 15th century and thereafter. But Loucha is not...
  7. Demetrios

    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    Yeah. The island of Zakynthos was a Venetian overseas "Domain" for 312 years (1485-1797), like a number of other regions in the Mediterranean at various times, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stato_da_M%C3%A0r. A Jewish community was also present on the island, but it was established after the...
  8. Demetrios

    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    The family of the aforementioned Greek sample in Zakynthos is rooted on the island at least since the beginning of the 1500s. I know for example that his earliest traceable ancestor in terms of his settlement of Loucha/Louha is from 1545, let alone on the rest of the island. For example, take...
  9. Demetrios

    How did I2a-Din get to the Balkans?

    There has been a new I-Y18331* sample from Poland. His surname is Zielinski (934935 in FTDNA). I am still looking into it and i will try to contact him. Don't know yet if he is Jewish or not, just that he is from Poland. Zielinski is a very common surname in Poland (6th-8th in frequency) and is...
  10. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    I see. Are you aware of its Eurogenes K15 coordinates or GEDmatch kit number because i cannot find anything relevant? From a quick search, i see that @Jovialis (here) was planning to share it after you asked for it some 9 months ago. Do you recall if it was published later in the thread?
  11. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    Great, i would like to add them as well. One of the two NE_Iberia_RomP (Empúries2), i believe I8216, is pretty much sub-clustering with the prior (I8215) sample i shared. Again, there are a total of five samples that make the Aegean BA (Empúries2) cluster. Specifically: I8215 - NE_Iberia_Greek...
  12. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    Do you mean I3499 (Vucedol) dated to 2884-2666 BCE, with Y-DNA R1b-Z2103? I would, but it falls in the category of those samples with outdated or deleted GEDmatch kits. For example the kit number i have, namely JM8436604, doesn't load and gives me the message "ERROR: Kit number |JM8436604| not...
  13. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    No worries. It's actually I9010 that has more drift towards the Neolithic sample of Diros (I2937) and some Minoan samples over some of the Mycenaean. I9006 is also a mixed case. Distance to: I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese 6.26202843...
  14. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    Regarding the first question. In the case of our paper, and more specifically in the case of the Mycenaean samples, we are informed of the following in the Supplementary Information (pages 5-13). Specifically: The chamber tombs at APATHEIA I9010 = Mycenaean - Galatas Apatheia Peloponnese I9041...
  15. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    I9006 along with I9010 are the ones furthest from the IA Thracian sample (I5769) both in the Dodecad K7b distance per population shared above by @Jovialis and the Eurogenes K15 PCA shared by me. I9033 and I9041 (along with the I9123 - Crete Armenoi) are plotting the closest to the IA Thracian...
  16. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    @Jovialis, does I8215 (NE_Iberia_Greek (Empúries2)) have a GEDmatch kit number? If not, can we create one by using the file from ENA, https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/SAMEA5229461? It would be interesting to test what @ihype02 mentioned. There are five samples from Empúries making the...
  17. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    I forgot to answer your question. Crete in general, especially during the BA, must have had a number of different people and languages spoken at the same time parallel to each other, also influencing one another as well. Homer also points to that in his Odyssey, where we read of Heteocretans...
  18. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    I9123 (Crete-Armenoi) is LBA not IA mate. Specifically its dated to 1370-1340 BCE. It's also a low quality sample as we have written again in the past, https://twitter.com/iosif_lazaridis/status/892931776372498434. Let's wait for more samples to get a better picture. In any case, i do expect...
  19. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    I updated the K15 PCA with additional samples, and also corrected I3313 which pertains to an Iron Age Dalmatian, not Bronze Age. As a sidenote, there are many ancient Balkan samples published, as seen in this following figure from "The Genomic History of Southeastern Europe" (2018), but i...
  20. Demetrios

    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    Are these using the Dodecad K7b coordinates? By the way, here is the respective Eurogenes K15 PCA. If you want i can also add the Cretan samples for comparison, i just made this quickly. I also include a Eurogenes K15 PCA with modern Greek samples that i saw in Anthrogenica some months ago.
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