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It is different to claim that the people from Neolithic Caucasus, Transcaucasia, and western Iran, made a migration initially towards Anatolia and then towards the Aegean, something that nobody argues about, and different to claim that this CHG component came from Iran at the rather late stage...

What i shared in the previous post pertains to what this paper says. Let me quote myself again. I only know that Minoan samples dated between 2900-1900 BCE and 2000-1700 BCE had it, so did the Anatolian samples from Isparta dated between 2836-1800 BCE, and the Mycenaean samples dated between...

Have you studied the paper? Maybe you can enlighten us as to the actual quotes and how it comes to that date? Plus, it doesn't refer to the steppe component as the one coming via Anatolia, but the CHG exclusively, that predated the arrival of steppe ancestry to Greece. Furthermore, the steppe...

Then read it again, it's simple to grasp. As for the paper, i haven't studied it to have an opinion on it or even understanding to what that 2,000 BCE refers to. Maybe you can enlighten us as to the actual quotes of the paper, and how does the paper come to that 2,000 BCE date, because the...

I didn't say anything about the Mugan plain nor did i say that i believe or support such a migration. You did that. Second, i haven't yet read the aforementioned paper, but in the abstract it has the following two quotes, "whereas Iranian farmer-related ancestry was present in Aegean Europe by...

I don't see any relation of the names Gilaki and Graikos, nor to the collection of words in the Wikipedia article you shared. As for kor and Greek κόρη being cognates it really doesn't mean that Greek originated either from Iranian or that Gilaki is even close to Greek linguistically. "kor"...

I had that very same discussion with another Iranian some 10 months ago, and bear in mind, in a period that i was a proponent of the Transcaucasian origin of PIE. I still didn't view Mukana as the origin of Mycenae. Plus, the word "Mycenae" simply refers to a powerful citadel/region in...

No, Minoans are largely indigenous to the Aegean (~62–86%), with the exception of that "eastern" (Caucasus/Iran-related) or CHG (Caucasian Hunter-Gatherer) autosomal component mentioned in the paper that ranges between ~9-32%. Their linguistic classification is another matter, and currently...

His "if Phrygian were not so poorly attested" reference has to do with the reconstruction of the proto-Greco-Phrygian stage of the language. Just like we need plenty of data for the reconstruction of PIE, that doesn't mean we cannot classify languages and the level of their affinity. Plus, his...

As for the pre-Greek substrate amount, i do find this answer in Quora adequate, https://qr.ae/pNKw0a.

We don't know where Minoan is classified, because we haven't yet deciphered the Linear A script. Only hypotheses exist, and one of them is the one i shared in a previous post (relating it to Hurro-Urartian). And yes, there have been multiple migrations to Greece. Neolithic farmers, very probably...

Ok, and you are the expert? The author published this in 2018 and includes every prior academic position that exists. And after going through everything himself, he also considers Greek the closest language to Phrygian (page 102, last paragraph or both pages 101-102).

This paper only studied one male Mycenaean, therefore nothing strange. In any case, we may hypothesize that proto-Greeks could have brought with them a branch of E-V13, but this would be purely hypothetical at this point. Plus, most of E-V13 in Greeks belongs to later branches.

I just read those pages, and it seems to me that much of what he shares in respect to their distribution, is not purely based on actual archaeological evidence, but in addition what we already know of the Brygians through the ancient Greek records. In a way generalizing the two. Then some other...

Plus, the archaeological evidence is too meager. Moreover, Borza sounds as if he is making a speculative interpretation rather than a direct assessment of the physical data. Last, Borza himself states that there exists an extremely slight archaeological record. I haven't seen what Hammond...

Phrygians have no linguistic affinity with the people that inhabited that region, namely the region of the Lusatian culture. So, what Nicholas Hammond and Eugene N. Borza write, in terms of archaeological similarities to the Lusatian culture is very probably due to the LBA/EIA upheaval that saw...

Mycenaeans, and Greeks in general mostly have a pre-Greek (pre-steppe) autosomal profile. The ones who brought the proto-Greek language in the Helladic peninsula didn't affect autosomally the indigenous population considerably (again relative terms). So, by Minoan they refer to the autosomal...

Phrygians migrated to Asia Minor in the period between 1,200-800 BCE, although the ancient Greek authors recorded traditions that place Phrygians first inhabiting Macedonia and southern Illyria, as well as reports of Brygian (Phrygian) surviving pockets in those areas. The Ohrid and Prespa...

At the end of the 2nd millennium BCE the Balkans experienced multiple migrations, not just one, hence the many names which are meant to differentiate the aforementioned people. Anyway, the wave that came from central Europe seems to have pushed the indigenous Dorians of north-western...

Mycenaens didn't have low steppe, these are of course relative terms. Plus, the paper suggests that the steppe component most likely came from the north. From the supplementary information of the paper, "we do notice that the model 79%Minoan_Lasithi+21%Europe_LNBA tends to share more drift with...