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They claim all the Ancient Balkans as theirs when they literally speak a Slavic language , that says a lot, as if it matters how many people were assimilated or not. Completely irrelevant. But when people became Muslims during Ottoman rule they were turned later during their fairytale invention...

Some of those I quoted is from Noel Malcolm, he never really said that Albanians 100% are from Dardanians. He seems to regard the Romanian/Vlach language from there. He said it's just a theory and that it does not matter. I actually agree but to these delusional Balkan Slavs all these things...

Dardanians were most likely an Albanoid-like tribe like many other Illyrians in the vicinity of the Albanoi. I do believe the Albanoi played a role in the origin of our people, or the name came from there, my point is they seem to of lived in other areas and mingled with other tribes and...

Epirote were possibly a related tribe as were the Ancient Macedonians, Dardanians, Taulantii etc other tribes too within Albania and around Albania. During Roman period we receieved more Latin influence.

So now you admit a relation to other Illyrian tribes ? First you argued tribes outside Albania were supposedly not Illyrian despite there seems to be a connection even to Messapian, Dalmatian, Dardanian etc. We also have the ''Dardha'' tribe for example. Seems even a connection to the Hallstatt...

Of course his conclusions are idiotic, I already pointed this out as have many people way before you. This is something that is known. You people who seem to think we are the 'Albanoi' seem to suggest they mainly inhabited the area between Drin and Shkumbin since the Iron Age ? Shkodra, Lezha...

What has us not being Albanoi anything to do with not being Illyrian ? Where did I say we are not part Albanoi or that they did not contribute ? Most of the western Balkans was inhabited by Illyrian tribes. Where did all those tribes and people in Albania or other areas go ? What are you even...

I have been thinking about this whole Albanoi thing, is it possible a name that also could of been picked up by some other tribe like what happened to Bulgarians and Serboi ?

http://macedonia.kroraina.com/en/nm/kosovo.html ..........

Sure, some of these new Albanian immigrants might of contributed to a demographic growth, with the group of Albanians that were already there. But it still counts strongly against the idea of mass immigration or Ottoman transplants which is the whole Serbian narrative. Not to mention there were...

Many Vlachs interesting enough seem to of migrated out before the Ottoman period.

Here is regarding even earlier in the Ottoman period, from the book 'Kosovo: A Short History' , For example Opoja in 1591 in Prizren area which also recorded almost no immigrants already had a majority Christian Albanian population in 1591. Some towns in Kosovo in the early 1600's had...

For example Albanians in Kosovo are constantly depicted as Ottoman transplants be it before 1690, at the start of the Ottoman period or after, yet when we look at events before 1690 for example the Albanian Catholic Mazreku writing in the early 1600's regarding the Catholics in Kosovo reported...

As for me playing the victim once again, I don't know if you meant me or in general. I am trying to show here that a lot of this Kosovo thing is based on false history which some historians such as Noel Malcolm also agree with. Therefor they should be quiet about their whole historical narrative...

Bogdani being referred to as 'Patriarch of Clemente/Kelmendi' can also maybe be explained that it was a name for Albanians, not neccessarily because he came from that tribe or led it. They were quite the 'loyal Servants' as you can see :laughing:

And I am not really playing victim. If all these conflicts in the Balkans is some kind of conflict as the result of who lived there first and someone else came there after then how come there was no ethno nationalist conflict when the Slavs came and settled in these lands ? They also settled...

I agree anyway that who lived first or who got there first is all useless. We know Illyrians, Thracians etc lived there as the first Indo-European people. What happened to all the Illyrians and Thracians we don't know. My theory is we served the Ottomans when we had too, many Balkan people...

I agree. I am just talking about nationalistic myths in general. Of course in the Serbian narrative they claim they lived there first but that does not explain the presence of Vlachs and Albanians in Kosova documented by medieval Serbian scriptures themselves.

Neither archaeologically. I added on wiki information from a book regarding archaeologically evidence that matches elements from Albania, regarding Apulia and the towns of Lecce etc which wiki says was settled by Greeks and that the Messpians were Greeks, I added information that claims they...

Actually I am not even interested in being a nationalist. I am interested in nationalistic myths and the Serbian-Kosovo thing is a nationalistic myth. According to Croatian historian Ivo Banac and British historian Noel Malcolm, Kosovo being central part of Serbian nationalism is a 19th century...