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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    You might want to apply your own advise ;) . There is nothing to "interpret" here ... The clades being "intermediates" is written in the paper. Repeating =\= Interpreting. No, I just didn't apply selection biases to the data. From the data, ORC007 is YP91+, period. The mis-read hypothesis is...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    This claim is from the paper itself, no need of Trojet or Hunter, the hability to read is sufficient : Yet, we don't know if the placement of this samples is : --> Accurate (the phylogenic tree in the paper contains many weird stuff) --> A consequence of a lack of resolution. To me, these...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    If I remember well, there is a R-L23 Punic-related sample around ~800 BCE Samples prior to that have unfolded as R-V88 according to my memmory. But here, we are so many years post R-M269 arrival in Western-Europe that there have been largely enough time for some minor lineage to migrate to...
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    Egyptian Ancient Dna from the Old and Middle Kingdoms

    While U5b2b5a2 might have entered North Africa during BA, uncertainties about mtDNA nodes datation are quite broad. Thus, there is still a little space for U5b2b5a2 to have entered north Africa during Neolithic (similarly to what we have for R-V88 male lineage). But most likely is indeed an...
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    Egyptian Ancient Dna from the Old and Middle Kingdoms

    None. In fact the paper tested staff member DNA (as usual) to verify for contamination risks. But, it is a typical mecanism from non-scientific "theoreticians", when their model didn't fit with data, then they will claim that the data have an issue. I even saw that in collaboration meeting few...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Always ? By who ? The wording "Germanic Y-DNA" is usually used to refer to the clades involved in the diffusion of the Germanic tribes. You have indeed a vast diversity of clades, that can't be grouped using Y-DNA phylogeny. Germans absorbed many clades on their way, and once absorbed, such...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    You will never demonstrates that with PCAs ... a PCA can't demonstrates continuity. What can demonstrates continuity is a segment based analysis (what is in a very noisy way the Y-DNA). If you receives genetic inputs from surrounding regions, as Europe is mainly an "autosomal DNA continuum" in...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Two things : 1/ Not my argument ... I just said that the argument of your pal is "very bad", that's all. 2/ No, blondess is not purely Germanic, I said it right at the beginning. Your friends think that because there is not a massive scandinavians population in modern North Italy it means that...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    As I said before on this topic, it is a very noisy estimator ... I also rounded up the numbers considering the broad error bars. In fact, yes, this is very scientific, technically you never drop a number alone, in serious science you provide either : -A number and an error bar -A confidence...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Nope, This is just the range at ~68% of considence that you can deduced from Y-DNA injection level between 0 and 600 CE under the assumption of an unbiased migration of both males and females. Keep looking for scandinavians ... good luck :ROFLMAO:
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Do you believe they only reproduced within themselved as some isolated populations ? Going there, -Can you identify me who are descendents of WSH in modern Europe ? -Who are descendents of EEF ? -Who are descedents of WHG ? Point is, we are all descendents of these 3 components. Similarly...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    And that's even worst : In a "two-recessive-gene" system ... With a 20% injection of light-eyes blond-hair peoples among dark-eyes dark-hair peoples ... You expect ~0.2^4 = 0.16% of light-eyes blond-hair post merging of populations. The fact that some peoples expect to find "Scandinavians"...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Still ... you don't expect such a thing from a 5-20% injection of Germanic DNA ~1500 years ago. Not sure what you try to prove with such argument. I'm also not convinced that Longobard themselves looked Scandinavian by ~500 CE.
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Just to say that this is a very bad argument Blonds hair gene is recessive. Let imagine you inject ~20% of Blond hair genes in a purely dark-haired population. After merging, you expect to have ~4% (=0.2^2) peoples with blond hairs. If you assume Blond hair comes (only) from Germans (note that...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    If well done, Y-DNA can be used as a proxy ... a noisy one, but still a proxy (that is only usefull when later admixture event have blured the autosomal DNA ... an issue "easy" to alleviate with ancient samples admixtures, but sometimes we don't have a lot of samples for many reasons). The...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    That's true, but if few lineages can migrate without affecting the destination's "autosomal signature", most if not any significant migration will induce injection of Y-DNA. Thus, while a "single lineage" shouldn't be over-interpreted, when you see collections of clades with a clear correlation...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    You should read me more carefully, I place Z631 cradle in South-Eastern-Alps around Southern Austria or Slovenia inside cremating Eastern-Hallstatt culture. I know that the recent South-German EIA J-Z597 sample makes you angry ... but please control yourself. Me, a statistician ? Nope, "just" a...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    West Balkans uniparentals ? Which ones ? The attested lineage with diversity in Western Balkans is J-Z597 (J-Z615 at most). Even if these samples are likely under this subclade of J-L283, we don't have confirmation yet. If they are (J-Z585+, J-Z615-), then there is just no diversity in the...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    And what they say is factually correct. But, are they making "conclusions" from those numbers ? I hope not, for their credibility. Anyone drawing conlusions on ratio based on so few samples should only pray for one thing : "Not falling on someone like me as a referee for your paper". What I...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    If you just consider statistical error bar (poisonnian distribution) ... you have way to few samples to make haplogroup ratios. And that would be under the very-very big assumption that all sample are statistically "independant", wereas there is obvious spatial correlations within locally...
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