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    Dna of King Bela III of Hungary

    I bet if they test some Avar DNA from Pannonian basin they will find similar make up,steppe confederation of "Scythian Tatar,Uralic" R1a,R1b and N,with others Tatars R1a: 33% (Z282: 19%, Z93: 14%) R1b1b2: 6,0% N1c1: 13,0% E1b1a: 4,0% I2a1: 5% And many others melting pot. Interesting...
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    Dna of King Bela III of Hungary

    Like most "steppe" nomads very diverse,where many people join into tribal confederation. But they seem to had "Indo-Aryan" or rather Turkic or Turkicizied elite as R1a-Z93 suggests,well Scythian from further east. So much of their Uralic "N" haplogroup,which in fact also their language is just...
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    How to divide Slavs from Balts, and vice-versa before 6th century?

    I think that in genetic sense we can distinguish the Slavs from Balts because Slavs have I2a din and in Baltic is almost absent. R1a Z280 is both Baltic and Slavic. R1a M458 can be find mostly among Slavs but also among Balts. I2a din spread from the west Ukraine,north Romania,Moldova and areas...
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    Thraco-Cimmerians

    To take all words in account we have Slavic-Sebri,Siabry earlier *Sembri,Simbri,Hungarian-Cimbora,Romanian-Simbra,Albanian-Sembër,Greek-Sympros. Some here are borrowings Germanic Himbra? And i myself think the Welsh name for themselves Cymru is likewise connected to the same "ethnonym",see...
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    Thraco-Cimmerians

    Well i just gave example how the word survived,but originally in medieval language at least in South-Slavic meant like "farmer".According to Constantine Jirechek original meaning of the word is a cooperative, a shareholder, a tenant.Later, the concept of "Sebar" plural Sebri earlier Sembri...
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    Thraco-Cimmerians

    However later on the Dniester (Tyras) where Cimmerians prior used to live, lived the Tyragetae Thracian tribe of the Getae. Changes seem to happened couple of times in Scythia.
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    Thraco-Cimmerians

    From the Baltic to Slavic countries,Romania etc the name of the Cimmerians survived and in the Centum as Cimbri. In Satem languages Slavic -"Sebrъ"(farmer,companion,friend) reconstructed as Sembrъ,Simber with lost "m" due nazalization.Like in "zub" (tooth) from earlier "zumb" etc...
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    Thraco-Cimmerians

    Cimmerians were firstly in Ukraine,and historians like Herodotus believed they were expelled by the Scythians that came from further east which triggered their migration from there.Cimmerian kings buried themselves on the Dniester,western Ukraine and Moldova. But probably not all emigrated they...
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    Thraco-Cimmerians

    TRERES (Τρῆρες), a people repeatedly mentioned by Strabo, generally as a tribe of, or at least. as closely connected with, the Cimmerii, but in a few passages as Thracians. Strabo was evidently undecided whether to regard them as a distinct race, or as identical with the Cimmerii, in whose...
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    Thraco-Cimmerians

    This culture spread Iron age into Europe,which also gave rise to Hallstatt Celts. I am however on the same opinion for I2a din,this lineages most probably spread only in the Iron age,and most of it is associated indeed with Slavic speaking groups,not even the Baltic,which form Balto-Slavic,so...
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    Anatolian Hypothesis: Lord Renfrew still a partial holdout

    That's why i am coming here :)
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    Anatolian Hypothesis: Lord Renfrew still a partial holdout

    Well also Yamnayan R1b-Z103 could come from Armenia or that area somewhere it is most common there, "Armenian" like population to be the source of CHG ancestry in Yamna. Armenian hypothesis of Ivanov and Gamkrelidze The big arrow called "Old- Europeans" that go arround Caspian sea are...
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    Iberian Neolithic M269?

    So R1b M269 was already in Iberia in Neolithic? Also i am confused that in "Yamnaya" until now is only found the eastern branch of R1b-Z103.
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    Anatolian Hypothesis: Lord Renfrew still a partial holdout

    The vocabulary for wheel could have been carried very well from the south to north Caucasus "Maykop" anyway the wheel probably developed in the Near east,so even after the separation the reconstructed word for wheel remained the same. So the word for wheel was alive even before "vehicles"...
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    Anatolian Hypothesis: Lord Renfrew still a partial holdout

    I posted this mostly for the CHG and EHG ancestry in Yamnaya,somehow they were illustrated good in this maps.
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    Anatolian Hypothesis: Lord Renfrew still a partial holdout

    Again about Yamnaya as source of IE languages and it's two most common "admixtures" According to Jones et al. (2015) and Haak et al. (2015), autosomic tests indicate that the Yamnaya-people were the result of admixture between two different hunter-gatherer populations: distinctive "Eastern...
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    Serb with I1

    Yes i suspect that there is indeed language barrier. For Last time;I1-Z63 is almost absent in Scandinavia where Goths originate,if this clade was spread by Goths from Scandinavia we would expect the Norse clade I1-L22 to be predominant where Goths migrated and not only but also other "Nordic"...
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    Serb with I1

    How do you know where he lived,also in 2650 B.C hardly was Germanic in that era. We cleared that this clade has nothing to do with Goths, had it come with them we would find the norse branch in much bigger amount in the Balkans than I1-Z63. Take a look in Scandinavian clades of I1. There is no...
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    Serb with I1

    Hungary Neolithic-oldest I1 found,from where it dispersed. I1-Z63 descent from this clade,simple we found it all over Europe.
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    Serb with I1

    There is no proof that I1-Z63 is Germanic much less Gothic,i will repeat again,this clade is almost absent where Goths are thought to originate Scandinavia. It is common in other regions of Europe. Other clades of I1 are another story for which we can speak of Germanic origin. I-Z63 formed...
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