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Very good observation I have the same opinion but unfortunately most people in present day society do not understand this, simply we or most of us are fed on nation state history and try to apply all this things in past history,when nation state and ideology like we know them today doesn't even...

Getae were Thracians and by no means are " derived " from Scythians, neither from Massagetae and their ancestry and language by all authors ancient and modern is considered Thracian.If you read my comment well I exactly say that Tatars perhaps not all of them,include for example Volga Tatars or...

Concerning Ossetians in my opinion they are probably descendant of the Alans (Aryans).Who in turn to some later historians were known as Massagetae prior.It is confusing mostly because of contacts between this ancient people like Getae,Massagetae,Alans or "Goths",some authors call the Huns as...

Well the queen Tomyris of the Massagetae build the town of Tomis according to Jordanes present day Constanta in Romania. She in many accounts was known to defeated Cyrus the Great. "After achieving this victory (against Cyrus the Great) and winning so much booty from her enemies, Queen Tomyris...

The "original" Scythians,probably came from central Asia in Iron age and were nomadic tribes,they ruled the area for period of time in Ukraine where Cimmerians have been,similar story told by Herodotus.Later the name Scythians was applied to many tribes of various languages including...

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Laberia@ You are on my ignore list here and i was answering another member about his possible origin of Y-DNA,most people that particular haplogroup connect with Slavs,so no need to ask questions and negate everything it is documented history and the Slavic presence there in southern Albania,and...

My opinion and on some people that i follow that did some research is that "codex argenteus" is based on Langobardic documents and language work done in the XVII century and that is not a Gothic language neither Gothic alphabet. Yes Goti (Goths) and Geti or Getae (Gets) are one and a same,just...

Your origin could be from the Vajuniti tribe,they settled southern Albania and Epirus,tribe known as Baiounitai.Also the village your grandfather comes from "Pesthan" has a Slavic origin name with meaning a "cave" or "dungeon" see peshtera, “cave”,village Peshtani in Macedonia etc. There is...

LATGAL,Thank you for our understandings. There is obivous link of ancestry and gene flow between South Slavs in this case Slavic Macedonians and the north-east,i myself link this ancestry mostly with the Iron age,i think that in Iron age there was more "northern" migrations in the Balkans,and i...

Geti (Getae) were "northern" branch of the Thracians and inhabiting the steppe including lower Danube,northern areas as far Dniester and Galicia.So you can not compare them with the Iron age Thracian sample from Bulgaria,which of course according to geographic area are more southern shifted...

This is not about who have more "ancient" DNA in the Balkans,but about this paper and people,what I said is that without a "south east" Europe genome specifically,you can not determine the north Central European ancestry precisely,simple we see that this samples are closest to present day...

I don't think that Tuscans are good representatives for South-East Europeans,maybe for Albanians or Greeks could be, but I don't think for the groups this females had their ancestry from Romanians,Bulgarians,Serbs,Croats etc the groups that we talk about here.The Ostrogoth however has zero of...

Then how come AED_513 is described as Bulgarian ancestry? Now Bulgarians are north-central Europe or what? AED_125 described as Romanian,Bulg like STR_228 Serb,Mac,Bulg etc like STR_535 Serb,Mac,Bulg etc like BIM_33 Rom,Ukraine,Bulg etc Or this South-East European ancestry turns in...

DE(Germany),SE(Sweden),NO (Norway) next and more closer to VIM_2 are BA (Bosnia) SM (Serbia and Montenegro),HR (Croatia),BG(Bulgaria),RO(Romania) Next to the Gepid like AED_513 overlap with present Bulgaria according to the authors and are female with deformed skull,AED_125 overlap Romania...

Tell me what i am missing.

Not to mention that numerous times i was writing in this forum that the Goti (Goths) are the Thracian Geti (Getae) as every ancient author tell us,yes the nomadic Thracians,the "Goths" practiced cranial deformation.The Romanticist forgery of Germanic "Scandinavian" Goths should be exposed...

If you are talking about the Gepid from Serbia,they just say that it had Central-Asian ancestry similar like Bavarian sample 1108 AED female with deformed skull from what i can read here http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/suppl/2018/03/06/1719880115.DCSupplemental/pnas.1719880115.sapp.pdf ,but...

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What about the Scandinavian "Germanic" ancestry of the Ostrogoth from Crimea or the Gepid from Serbia We certainly know that the "Gothi" practiced cranial deformation,but none of this elongated skulls either male or female had Germanic ancestry.