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Not sure, maybe medieval slavic admixture with montenegrins, or maybe older, the ancient Balkans did have trade with Baltic groups, amber, women, etc, around Pannonia and the Danube IIRC The Proto-Illyrian samples plot more northern and western than Albanians, I'm not exactly sure if they had a...

A lot of Northern Albanians are closer to Northern/Central Italians than Southern Italians, such as myself. Apulia is the closest southern population to me, other South Italian groups, not as much. This is my Eurogenes K36 similarity map, I haven't done G25 yet but I will soon to compare the...

Could DNA alone solve the puzzle of the Proto-Albanian language? What I mean by that is, once we get samples from Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia, and Kosova, and we have more J2b2/E-V13/R1b samples, with more specific matching clades in modern Albanians, would we be able to get a closer look...

Albanian is not a pure Illyrian language Albanian is not a pure Thracian language Bryges were in Albania circa 1200BC, some Dardani crossed from Balkans to Anatolia around this time too, WITH some of the Bryges. Some stayed behind in the Balkans. Bryges, Dardani, Paeoni, seem to all be heavily...

Says the E-V13 shkja. Go scribble some more Albanian in your notebook. Go make up more stories about having albanian friends. I know you wish you had some E-V13 friends :( Many E-V13 Slavs have the biggest identity crisis, I've seen it time and time again. Loving and hating themselves and...

Hawk, have you heard of Iron Age Illyrians? Illyrian Dardani? The Bryges in Albania who lived around a billion Illyrian tribes? My bad bro, must have been pure Thracians.

Wait a minute.. do you guys know what Thraco-Illyrian is? :amazed: I never thought I'd discover this, but it's when Illyrians and Thracians mix, and create a new group with influences from BOTH. Apparently this happened a lot in the Southern Balkans. I think we might be on to something.

I guess the Dardani and Bryges weren't ruled by Illyrians in the Iron Age, must have been a dream. :sadcry: They must have been pure 100% Thracians for thousands of years, the true Proto-Albanians with only E-V13!! So amazing how they resisted the South Slavs, Greeks, Italians, these groups have...

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On another note, I found some time-lapse videos of the Illyrian, Thracian and Brygian languages. Really interesting to look at Illyrian & Thracian languages Brygian / Phrygian language

I agree 100%. The fact that spreading misinformation about pigmentation will result in a swift ban (rightfully so), but insults to an entire ethnic group doesn't, is bizarre and unfair. I can understand having a life and being away from the internet for days at a time, but it's been over 48 hrs...

I've noticed that Albanians from Northern Albania and Montenegro, tend to plot slightly more North-West compared to the "core" of Albanians. Interestingly, these areas have the lowest foreign Y-DNA (I2,R1a, l1, etc) but they have slightly higher Baltic, Atlantic, compared to other Albanians...

Y-DNA of Greece and Turkey from 2017, not sure how accurate it is today. It's interesting that J2b is nearly as frequent as J2a in Thessaly, Central Greece/Attica, and Greek Macedonia.

Not quite. The Neolithic Revolution brought the genes for lighter skin to Europe first, then another wave with Indo-Europeans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_skin

50cent ft. Young Buck- I'll Whip Your Head Boy (LYRICS)

Ah yes, the "mountains" of Nish, and Shtip. :laughing: Nish has an elevation of 640 feet, Shtip has an elevation of 1000ft. They are cities in low lands. You call these mountains? The Albanian Alps have an elevation of 9000ft, and the Sharr mountains have an elevation of 9000ft. Dibra, 9000ft...

Here you go torzio, read it and weep. By the way torzio, I have a very important question for you, but don't think too hard. I see a lot of your posts you discuss the Illyrians being J-L283, something we can all agree on. In this post you say the Illyrians vanished long ago. Can you tell me...

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: The Proto-Albanian language originated in the mountains, away from the coasts, somewhere along the Jiricek line. J2b2 just so happens to be most frequent, on the nearby mountains straddling this line. Coincidence? I think not. Just because the...

Thought I'd post these here, some J2b2 maps from rrenjet

Wrong, it also included Albania