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I see where enter_tain is coming from. Everyone is taking him out of context. He's not "wishing" for Albanian ancestors to be overwhelmingly Mycenaean-like, he's saying they will be pulled in that direction from mixing with more EEF as they made their way into the Southern Balkans. How people...

I'm not saying "like a greek" I'm saying more shifted in that direction due to having more farmer DNA. Prior to Indo European invasions, Balkans was EEF heavy. Heavy farmer DNA pulls you closer to Greeks/Near East. The earliest Greeks, Minoans and Mycenaeans, were mostly farmer DNA. Early IE...

Update your sarcasm detector to the latest firmware update, and then read my post again

It blows my mind when people say things like, "Well Northern Illyrians had Celtic shields and Gaul/Celt admixture, so they can't be true Illyrians" But they don't apply that logic to Southern Illyrians, or any other group (every group has influences from neighbors) Southern Illyrians had...

What would this thread be, without ShpataEMadhe bringing back his Italo-Celt-Liburnian J2b2 theory, to make torzio's and ghurier's eyes light up, like kids on Christmas day! We have a J2b2 sample, dating to 1461BC, below the Neretva river, where the "real Illyrians" were, that is Z638, which is...

I wonder if they'll find an ancient E-V13 sample from the South Western Balkans, matching an Albanian branch. We have E-V13 Thracians, Scythians, Avars, etc, so I don't think it would be surprising if some E-V13 became incorporated into the Illyrian sphere, early on. Same with Greece and Italy...

Is your East and West flipped? Seems like it. I remember the Croatia_IA sample being North-West of Albanians, and Bulgaria_IA being South-West of Albanians, not more East. In fact I believe most of the ancient Balkan samples we have are more Western-shifted than Albanians. I do agree that...

Gjakove, Gjilan, and Mitrovica are 25% J2b2 so far, Prishtine at 28%, so there is a decent spread of Illyrian patrilineage in Kosova overall, even in the South West and North. But yes, overall J2b is more concentrated in Eastern Kosova I can't post links yet but you can see all the J2b2 here...

Dardanians were also Latinized by the Romans too, not only the Illyrians from Illyria Proper In both Illyria and Dardania, there were Latinized Illyrians, as well as Non-Latinized Illyrian rebels, living in the mountains, avoiding Roman rule the best they could So if these linguists want to...

Yes, Kosovo is J2b heavy, most of Kosovo is pretty much what we would call Western Dardania, going by their ancient borders. Eastern Dardania extended roughly to the borders of Eastern Serbia, where there was greater Thracian influence

I just joined Eupedia, and I've never spoken to you before today. Sorry if I struck a nerve, reminding you of someone else.

Yeah, I'm sure Malsi, Dukagjin, and Hoti, areas with the highest J2b2 frequency, some of the oldest Albanian tribes, aren't Albanoid haha. Are these tribes not strong enough for you? These are areas with the least foreign Y-DNA in all of Albanians, sounds strong as hell to me. Also a big chunk...

Take the following post with a grain of salt, as I know this is a sensitive topic, just giving some thoughts/ideas for a discussion. Albanian has links to Illyrian, Thracian, many Latin loans, some non-IE words, etc, and combined with the fact we barely have material of the ancient Balkan...

Yep, it's quite fascinating. It's cool that we are part Thracian too. I wonder how similar their languages were, especially in the South Balkans where they seemed to have influenced each other more. Maybe as similar as Spanish & Portuguese? Or like German and Danish? Speaking of Celts, I'm 4%...

Ain't it amazing guys... it's all #real Glad to be here with my brothas From Rasna to Messapia, From the Alps to Epirus, From Dardania to Paeonia, Our ancestors once stretched far and wide The Greeks and Romans were right thousands of years ago