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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    What is your source? I see just one R1a here: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/292581v1.supplementary-material I6891 I6891 DA-SIM0317-005, Grave 11 petrous S6891.E1.L1 1240K.capture n/a (no date) This study Luca Olivieri, Muhammad Zahir, Massimo Vidale, Roberto Micheli, Ayushi...
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    You just talk about a myth which has been fundamentally rejected by Indian geneticists, Dr. Niraj Rai clearly says "Massive migrations from Steppes to Bronze Age India is a myth", so Vedic people certainly didn't come from Steppes, those who came in 300 BC and later were other people like...
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    Did you know that R1a sample from South Asia which dates back to about 300 BC is R1a1a1b (R1a-Z645), not R1a1b2a2 (R1a-L657)? R1a-Z93 is a subclade of R1a-Z645.
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    Please talk about facts, not estimates, Late Bronze-Iron Age South Asia means about 300 BC, we also read from Narasimhan et al.: "We observe only 2 R1a Y chromosomes among the 44 SPGT males", it means even in the same ancient site in the same period about 4 percent of people had steppe ancestry...
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    I see just one R1a from Swat in Pakistan which dates back to about 300 BC, what are Bronze Age samples?
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    Yes, Scythians lived in the Steppe and they migrated to north of India and northwest of Iran, for this region R1a has a high frequency in these regions but in Persia (Fars) province of Iran where ancient Persians lived R1a has a very low frequency.
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    Scythian people who migrated to India had R1a-Z94 and L657 is its subclade. Indo-Scythians and their descendants migrated to other parts of India too.
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    Of course Indo-Scythians who lived in India had L657 and Brahmins are one of their descendants.
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    There were different Scythian tribes, genetic studies show R1a came to India after Iron Age, so they were either Scythians or Kushans who brought it, some of Scythians tribes were actually aboriginal East Europeans who had adopted Scythian culture.
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    So they were Scythians who migrated from East of Europe to India and created Indo-Scythian kingdom in the 2nd century BC.
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    There is absolutely no genetic evidence which shows some people from Eastern Europe migrated to India and Iran from 2000-1000 BC.
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    So Aryans lived in Eastern Europe in 600 BC and two men from this region named Cyrus and Darius came and conquered the whole of Middle East, it seems to be a new myth which is much more unbelievable than previous ones.
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    Do you mean Brahmins were some East Europeans who migrated to India in the Late Iron Age and adopted Indian culture? It is possible but we know ancient people who called themselves Aryan hundreds years earlier were Persians who had no R1a-Z93.
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    Narasimhan has mentioned about 70 samples from about 1400 BC, most of them are in Pakistan.
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    Now real Aryans were neither those who lived in the west of Iran (Mitanni), nor those who lived in the east of Iran but those who lived in Eastern Europe!! The fact is that R1a-Z93 has never been found in any ancient sample from Iran and India, so it didn't relate to Indo-Iranians (Aryans)...
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    Among several ancient samples in the South Asia, Narasimhan has just found one R1a in Pakistan which dates back to 300 BC, we know there were Aryans in the west of Iran from at least 1,700 BC and you say real Aryans were those who lived in the east of Iran from 300 BC?! Narasimhan has actually...
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    The oldest known Aryans were those lived in Mitanni, Median and Persian lands, in the 6th century BC Darius the Great in his inscriptions called himself and his Persian nation Aryan, R1a has never been found in any ancient sample in Persia, modern Persians in Persia (Fars) province of Iran have...
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    No R1a in Bronze Age India, Iran, Anatolia, Greece & Italy, who were Indo-Europeans?!

    You can find the answer of your questions here: http://indiafacts.org/interview-with-sri-shrikant-talageri-on-his-new-book-genetics-the-aryan-debate/ As you read R1a is found in much higher percentage in non-Aryan speakers like the Manipuri people of the east and non-Brahmin castes like Khatris...
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    Massive migrations from Steppes to Bronze Age India is a myth

    When we say Indo-European we mean Indian and European, not just European, R1a and R1b have not been found in Bronze Age India, so they didn't relate to Indian and Indo-European people. They probably relate to Vasconic, Uralic and other non-Indo-European people who live in Europe.
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