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    Who can help us for publishing our study about ancient DNA in north-central Iran?

    I thought about the origin of Indo-Iranian people Narasimhan could help us, so I contacted him but he disappointed me when he related R1a-M17 to the origin and spread of Proto-Elamite. I and some Iranian geneticists, like Dr. Surena Firuzi, are working on the origin of Indo-Iranian people...
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    What Was The Original Language of R1a1a?

    Iranian geneticists (Dr. Maziar Ashrafian Bonab, Surena Firuzi, Behnaz Saffar,...) have found R1a1a (R1a-M17) from the DNA of ancient skeletons in Tepe Sialk in north cenral Iran which date back to about 4000-3500 BC: https://www.virascience.com/thesis/515891/
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    I know what you mean but among all Indo-European languages of Europe, Proto-Germanic as an IE dialect seems to be the only one which was still spoken in Iran in the first half of the 1st millennium BC. In fact it can be considered as the last IE dialect.
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    And "Hellenic out of Iran" (Mugan plain) and "Indo-Iranian out of Iran (Tepe Hissar),... But as I said in this thread: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39507-Linear-Gutian-(Formerly-known-as-Linear-Elamite)-was-deciphered-an-IE-language/page2 It is wrong to call Gutian as a Germanic...
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    R1a language before Proto-IE?

    Do you mean Z282 just related to ancient Iranian speaking people, like European Sarmatians?
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    R1a language before Proto-IE?

    Did these Para-Proto-Indo-European speaking people live in the south of Levant too? R1a1a1 has been also found there.
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    Look at also this thread: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/28668-Link-between-Elymians-and-Elamites (Link between Elymians and Elamites?) We really see many similar Italic and Elamite words, like this one: Elamite san "blood": https://ids.clld.org/units/216-100 Latin sanguis "blood"...
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    Who did it?!
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    Ok, we read from the above link: It seems there was a Proto-Zagrosian language: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12284-011-9076-9 Latin haedus "young goat": https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/haedus#Latin...
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    R1a language before Proto-IE?

    Of course I meant R1a-M417 and Z282 and Z93 subclades, it seems to be clear R1a predates not only Indo-Iranian but also Proto-Indo-Eruoepan by several thousands years.
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    R1a language before Proto-IE?

    Euskera was the original name of steppe people, the same people who already called Bashkir, according to many Perso-Arabic sources, the original language of Bashkirs before Turkification in the 10th century was Farangi (Western European), we read about Bashkir in encyclopedia...
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    R1a language before Proto-IE?

    R1b is Euskera (Bashkir/Basque) haplogroup and R1a is Indo-Iranian haplogroup.
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    Of course I believe those who lived in ancient Iran were Proto-IE people but I want to know are there other possibilities or not? Anyway it seems you have confirmed that "Iranian related ancestry" relates to Iran in the Bronze age, I think it is actually a wrong term, if it is proved that Iran...
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    The main reason that I asked my questions here is that not only this map but also the article says nothing about the source of this Iranian-related ancestry, of course when it says "Iranian" and east of Anatolia in the map is "Iran", it seems to be very possible that the source is also Iran...
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    Please show your source about it, there are some thousands years between 2000-1500 BC and Neolithic age, please also be clear, when we read about unmixed people with Iranian-related ancestry in the Middle Bronze age, who these people could be other than inhabitants of Iran?
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    I just searched in Google Image and found another map: It says Anatolia and Iran plus Steppe?! But it comes from the northwest of Iran, in the west of Anatolia it is divided into two branches.
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    I don't know how you can't see in the map that steppe ancestry and Iranian-related ancestry are two different lines, the date on the map is "2000 BC", but Lazaradis et al paper talks about people of Chalcolithic Iran (about 5000-4000 BC), this Iranian-related ancestry clearly comes through...
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    Would you please explain this map:
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    Do you mean CHG is the direct source that you mentioned? I still can't find the answer, in the Neolithic age, some people from Iran migrated to South of Caucasus (however it cannot be called a migration, both lands are in the same region), then what happened? How this ancestry reached south of...
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    What does "Iranian related ancestry" mean?

    About Yamnaya, it seems to be clear that this "Iranian related ancestry" is a different thing because they talk about "Steppe-related ancestry" as another thing, I can't find the answer of my question in the paper that you mentioned.
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