No, linguistics is not an exact science.
It’s very much a speculative field for the reason that languages constantly evolve and change shape. It’s exactly why Albanian can’t really be classified properly, especially because all of the related paleo Balkan language didn’t survive and didn’t...
Yeah man, few irrelevant toponyms, that no one knows who named or how they came about, are more relevant to the Albanian question than actual DNA.
Gotcha
I don’t care what Matzinger has to say. Or any linguist for that matter. Circle jerking on almost no evidence, besides some toponyms/hydronyms, taken from second hand sources at that, as far as I am concerned. And of course, Satem/Centum nonsense that you just brought up above.
DNA is where is...
Regarding the L618, you guys are taking it too literally and are focussing too much on little irrelevant details. What I mean is, it doesn’t matter where it comes from it might be just another L618 dead end..
Sure buddy. We will take your stance as being more subjective - Alb being Satem therefore is mostly likely Thracian that came only with V13 from the CWC/BB complex. Simply because it’s personal to you based on your own linage.
It’s not just about diversity. Z2103 seems to have been the most...
No, I haven't read it yet. Will read eventually. My comment was more directed towards you insinuating that Albanian was part of the CWC group instead of Yamnaya. Which is totally nonsense, when one looks at those Y-DNA samples. How you can come to such a conclusion honestly is beyond me.
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Lmao CWC/BB
Doesn’t get any more clearer. Yamnaya brought Paleo Balkan languages, including Greek, directly to the Balkans. Z2103, PF7563 and L283 are the clear signals. Albanians are without any doubt their descendants.
We will see what that L618 is when we get the raw data. But if he is...
It's ambiguous because it's not based on data.
It doesn't matter what Illyrian group, perhaps groups from proper Albania who crossed the Adriatic and formed the Iapygians. That's the logical conclusion. They most certainly didn't cross the Adriatic from Paenonia or north-eastern Dardania...
Looks more like a wishful map to me.
Y23373 currently has only two sister branches that proliferated approximately around 1300BCE based on yfull data. Both from Italy (not including the German BY611+ from Poland and the Hungarian samples because we don’t know where they fall in - possibly...
I guess you’re not aware that Albanians never referred to the Latin speaking communities as ‘Latin’. It meant something else on those days, it denoted religion.
That may mean that perhaps Berisha were Orthodox in those days.
Korbi claim to have their origin in Mirdite. Plus considering the rest of the samples from around there, Diber, western Macedonia etc I don’t think they hail from further north. Their haplotype diverges a bit too from the rest of that cluster. So, quite some diversity among Albanians within this...
That’s probably just to cover their asses because of their earlier comments linking all our V13 to Illyrians. Some subclades I guess could have been present among Dardanians but seems to me that probably at least a good portion moved west with Romans, just like in the rest of Europe, and some...
Stamov guy is crazy. Can’t believe this guy works on these papers:
‘‘Thracian samples share more SNPs with contemporary Greeks and even contemporary Icelanders than with contemporary Bulgarians.’’
A quote of his ^^
Is the raw data available?
FTDNA is getting careless too. For example they have the Ravna I15552 sample under Z2110 (FTA27460). But he is negative upstream at the CTS699 node (BY221375-).
He is just a parallel branch to Y32147 under Y125049.
There are six other branches parallel to Y125049 under BY38894 that are predominantly Albanian, besides BY199059. The other two parallel branches to BY38894 under Z2705 are BY147912 and YF121449 (apparently from Mirdite/Mat area). So, over...
That 45% mark is not accurate but not that far off either considering vast majority of Kosova Serbs are with origin from the tribal region of Montenegro (Brda) - implanted there by the Serbian kingdom after WW1. One can simply look at the serbian project and see that such families belong to...
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