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J-L70 is MBA, not EBA.

I don't understand the relevance of autosomal DNA here. This is why I find your argument flawed: There are a handful of Greek J-L70 lines identified currently. For this, let's assume they all arrived in Greece via an Anatolia route (I don't believe all the Greek L70 necessarily passed through...

Thanks for this! This is far better data for Albanians than that available from FTDNA - Albanians appear to have 1.1% J-L70. I imagine some of it could be Greek (?) and some is likely via Syrian Auxiliaries - several of those units were in the Balkans from Antioch, Hem, Itura, and Tyre.

Ah okay! This branch is very far from J-L70. The most recent shared marker between the two is J-PF5087 - with a TMRCA of 15 700 ybp. For sure, there are branches of J2 that have an old presence in Europe - it's just that J-L70 isn't one of them (at least not as old as Neolithic - in any case...

There were only 3 samples from Antonio et al that were J-L70 - 2 from the Middle Ages, and one from Late Antiquity. This admittedly doesn't tell us much.

That branch, J-FGC32147, wouldn't surprise me if it were early Arab. As mentioned in my first post, it's presence in Sicily could easily be attributable to the Aghlabid Dynasty. Perhaps this Roman is paternally descended from a Nabatean or an Aramean?

And to add, J-Z387's TMRCA fits.

It wouldn't be too surprising for *J-Z387 to have been associated with Proto-Semitic, Proto-West Semitic, or Proto-Central Semitic.

I describe J-L70 as young, since given it's wide distribution, a TMRCA of 3800 ybp is indeed young for such a distribution to be achieved.

Yes! Given where he falls and those surrounding, I wouldn't be too surprised if his line made it's way north into Anatolia, and was then picked up from there, making it's way to Rome.

All samples, whether it's those from FamilyTreeDNA, or from a scientific paper, will face sampling risk. It's inherent. Since there is a limited amount of data for J-L70 in terms of frequencies (most studies test for J-Z387, since DYS445=6 isn't exclusively J-L70), I took it upon myself to at...

Indeed, J-L70 is found throughout Western Eurasia. One of the noticeable things we see is that there are Near Easterners, Mediterranean, and non-Mediterranean Europeans at virtually all levels of the phylogeny. This suggests that J-L70 diversified amongst a certain culture, or in a certain...

Thanks - I have seen this paper before! The issue that arises, is that most of these studies test for DYS445=6, which is a characteristic of all of J-Z387. So when a study does present data, it is reasonable to assume we're looking at a mix of J-L70 and J-FGC35503 - whereas my data is...

Hi all! I am a new member to this forum - but I am active on others. I feel that this forum would benefit from an up-to-date take on J-L70. For those interested, I do have threads dedicated to J-L70 on Anthrogenica that have evolved over time - but I'm not sure on the stance of posting links...