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I am from Kosovo and there is absolutely nothing that suggests that Dardania or Kosovo was the only Albanian homeland. It is merely suggested as to of been part of the area where the whole Albanian-Romanian/Vlach contact happened. Even Michiel de vaan suggests this theory. Albanian also picked...

Dardanians by Strabo were mentioned as Illyrians He mentions them several times as Illyrians. https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/texts/Strabo/7E*.html Also read his other chapters on the Epiroti etc. There is really no evidence for any of this nonsense this Matzinger claims...

For example this is just a claim made by Noel Malcolm, even he who supports a supposed Dardanian origin puts it in the Western Balkans Most likely because the language survived through isolation and contraction: Matzinger is the same guy who has changed his opinion dozzen of times, he went...

Also not to mention Albanoi inscriptions have been found in Dardania or Northern Macedonia. Slavs also picked up toponyms in Northern Albania from Albanian speakers. Not to mention toponyms outside such as 'Ulqin' from 'Ujk' possibly or Delmatae from 'Dele' . Anyway, these people are driven...

Nothing suggests Eastern Dardania alone was an Albanian homeland or where the Albanian language supposedly survived, and I am from Kosovo. Large parts of Dardania was Romanized while Albanian language is believed to of survived in a mountain area as a result of contraction and isolation, not...

I don't know why you keep repeating this argument. Lezhe, Shkoder, Durres etc do match pre-Roman Albanian and this type of change has occurred in many words as it has with Nish, Shkup etc. And while inland Latin is strong in Albanian, it also shows some coastal Latin influence indicating a...

Here is also an explanation by Noel Malcolm on this matter I had to remove the sources but he seems to claim Messapian-Illyrian were maybe different after all ? Possibly maybe because Messapian was influenced by other people that lived in Southern Italy also. Or maybe because it split early...

Some arguments against Thracian and Dacian origin. There might of been some similar words with Dacian and Thracian in Albanian, through also common IE origin, and Romanian might of had some Thracian origin and Albanian some Thracian influence, and these three groups of people (Illyrian...

Very interesting map. Thanks for the share.

I don't know man. I have been to so many places and realized the world ain't all that. I just want to find peace within myself. :unhappy:

Bard in Illyrian and Messapian meant grey or white, in Albanian bardh means white for example Ana was a word for mother in Illyrian as in Messapian. In Gheg Albanian variant Nana means mother. It's possible Messapian was also influenced by Greek and Italic after their arrival to Italy...

Illyrians most likely as a group of people already formed during the Late Bronze Age/Early Iron Age at the very least. And actually my mistake, it seems I misread Herodotus. And I haven't studies this topic enough nor the arrival into Italy of the Messapians. I thought he meant that they were...

He's not following any kind of data but is creating tin foil hat theories without any evidence and talking about things and people that we know so little about to make any definitive conclusions yet makes the most bewildering claims. He even got debunked when he claimed Shkoder, Lezha toponyms...

Reminds me of the Albanian revolt of 1912 against the Ottoman Empire en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_revolt_of_1912 Anyway, this is a J2b2 thread so lets not derail it. :)

There were several Illyrian wars actually (3). And none of them occurred in 6AD or 9AD but much earlier during Roman occupation of the Balkans. What you posted is about the Illyrian revolt which occurred around 6AD to 9AD. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellum_Batonianum

Then maybe I came across wrong in expressing my opinion. What I meant was that it suggests an origin of the Albanians in the Western Balkans. The area was colonized by BronzeAge/Iron Age Illyrians. All these findings suggest they were rich in J2b2 lineages and R1b. You're the one who has to...

Wouldn't be surprised if they did it on purpose xD

I do not think that anyone ever said that all Z638 is found in Albania nor did anyone talk about any kind of expansion from my understanding. We are merely stating the fact that it was found on the Adriatic coast near Albania is most likely where the Albanian subclades originated somewhere...

So basically from what I understand most of the Albanian belongs to the branch J-Z638 which also the sample 'I26726' in Croatia belonged to. yfull.com/tree/J-Z638/ Basically found on the Adriatic coast, not too far away from Albanian lands, obviously indicating a Western Balkan origin...

There is also evidence to show this such as medieval place names in Kosovo are filled with Romanian and Aromanian toponyms based on a document I read but I cannot find the document anymore this paper I read claims the same It's about KOSOVO, I cannot post links. It's a paper I read about...