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If It made Eurogenes have a fit... God bless Lazaridis for that.

Even more interesting is the fine tuning process that went trough of how MPI-SHH sees it (If its true that the RCZM map is done in conjunction with MPI-SHH): 2016 https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hgE-lIeFmE4/V_meD6jUPDI/AAAAAAAAE-Q/vUn-rQq80L4H9DBLdwpiiFY9234YPAxfQCLcB/s400/Krause_IE_map_small.png...

And to be even more clear: those two arrows (https://imgur.com/a/ANeaSyZ) are stating that both Sredny Stog as well as orlovka culture are derivatives of the Shulaveri-Shomu. Funny also how at Reich Lab the communication mantra went from Iran Neolithic DNA to Iran_N/CHG to in latest twitter...

Just a reminder to everyone that its 2020. As far as I know, the following image is used by the Johannes Krause group at Jena (MPI SHH) as of mid 2019 regarding neolithization of Europe. Have they already and finally figure it out as well? - *https://imgur.com/a/ANeaSyZ Those two arrows are...

Dear lord!

"t appears that the world of the 4th millennium BC was well-connected long before the major expansion of steppe pastoralist and related groups. In this wide-ranging network of contacts, people not only spread and exchanged know-how and technological innovations, but occasionally also exchanged...

Not a good time to play hero and come to the rescue.... Grow up.

Fair enough. However this image does not make 6900 BP any centrality... but it answers the date figure itself and not 5000BC I give you that. its important to note he published 20 dates, as an agriculture PIE origin where divergence occur 8700 year ago for Anatolian, 7900, 7300, 6900, 6500...

Yes, that I truly think there is kindof an embargo. Even Wang et al was from 4500BC, weird how Neolithic South Caucasus and extensive 4500BC-3900bC south balkans are being saved for "later" papers. Lets see if it isnt all a scripted narrative.

Indeed. Very precise date. And on top of it, the hypothesis of a south Caucasus migration to Steppe by these dates is called the Iain Mathieson 2018 hypothesis, the same Mathieson that, by the few times he himself engage Eurogenes, must have watched me in endless battles in Eurogenes defending...

the latest buzz word should really be Honey, Medhu. University of toronto, which is working in SHulaveri and Gadrachilli, is saying they will publish something later how the shulaveri were apicultures, so, honey harvesters.

you're kidding right? - At the beginning of this thread you have a Map with dates from Johannes krauser, where he even goes as far as writing 6900 years ago instead of 7000 Years ago. Why? - because For years I have been spreading the 4900BC as the year PIE started to spread from the south...

MPI SHh is even making maps with dates... And still people "pretend not to see". Never mind... At the right time they 'knew all along" and "have been saying it since" whatever.

:) Angela is working her way to ban me infraction after infraction.... Where is maciamo?

Yes. I will still ignore you. Your role and intent is to provoque me in order for that other someone (s) is able to give me an infraction.

Just to make it clear how far Wang et al went in the direction of my shulaverian Hypothesis This is in accordance with the Neolithization of the Caucasus (ie The Shulaveri-Shomu), which had started in the flood plains of South Caucasian rivers (ie Kura and araxes river where shulaveri lived)...

... The published paper is full of novelties over the preprint or added explanation by the authors. however you guys just move over it as if nothing changed. Nothing to see. As long as each of you is able to keep the mantra its ok. ... And I am the one accused of being the one that only talks...

No subclades known? What I am saying next is just a coincidence, ok? Not intented to mean nothing.... But that place is 13 miles from Tel Tsaf. And tel tsaf is important in the shulaverian hypothesis... slide 4600BC. (https://shulaverianhypothesis.blogs.sapo.pt/)

I get confused, worried, and ? - Read the replies from authors to reviewers! How they got admixed? at least as early as by 5500BC some shulaverian were starting to pour into north Caucasus (that is the exchange with reviewer 2). There might be or not be already a CHG population that had...

Yes. We are back to hordes of amazon women roaming into new lands and having babies with local men. Specially these in particular that manage to cross alone one of the most dificult mountain ranges to cross. And all by themselves. Remarkable. ;)