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    Ancient genomes from Caucasus inc. Maykop

    What you don't have is: Caucasus NEOLITHIC - do think that is a coincidence? The place where Shulaveri lived was a wastland for a couple centuries before you see Sioni arriving. Let alone a thousand years later the Kura-Araxes. What is the problem people have with time?
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    Ancient genomes from Caucasus inc. Maykop

    .... one of replies from the authors to reviewers... Reply: This statement is based on the hypothesis put forward by Mathieson et al. 2018: “An alternative hypothesis is that the homeland of Proto-Indo-European languages was in the Caucasus or in Iran. In this scenario, westward population...
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    Ancient genomes from Caucasus inc. Maykop

    reviewer 2 is brutal... " It’s good to point out that older Neolithic sites could be found in the northern flanks, but what you’re implying here is that Gorelik was wrong to specify a PPNB influence on the steppes (fine, I agree) and it really was an extension of the Georgian...
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    Ancient genomes from Caucasus inc. Maykop

    Those reviewers were delicious... "Figure 2: On the right side, the color bar graphs for Yamnaya Samara and Yamnaya Kalmyk do not show any orange color for Anatolian (or Early European) Farmer ancestry. The discovery of Anatolian/Early European Farmer ancestry in these samples is one of the...
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    Ancient genomes from Caucasus inc. Maykop

    I love the NEW reviewers comments supplement …. "Lines 442 and 606-608 : The abstract for this paper highlights this finding as one of the principal discoveries of the project. The Yamnaya population of the Pontic-Caspian steppes, whose Bronze Age migrations east into Asia and west into Europe...
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    New conference on Bronze Age mobility in Europe

    Pax, The study keeps referring Goncalves (David) and Pires (Ana)... at the time (2016) I had just finished writing my shulaveri-Shomu hypothesis, but on Fridays my daughter was on Chemotherapy and I used to sit at a chair (Kids do chemo with parents sited next) and there was a 3 year old kid...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    Hi Pip, thank you for your questions. Very good ones really. I don’t think I have ever been asked a set of so acute and disconcerting ones in all these years. But Remember that I have 10 slides , just 10, that visually explain everything. In here: https://shulaverianhypothesis.blogs.sapo.pt/...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    Guys, apart from the conversation of "priesthood" (its becoming awkward....) what does it mean too early for iberia and being or not an outlier? a couple facts: Movement of people (see Balkans with the end of big settlements and movements to smaller scattered settlements, or the vanishing of...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    yes, 97% are Mtdna A,B,C. Portuguese Serra da estrela, Eastern Turkey kangal , spanish galgo and North Africa Aidi are Mtdna HG D... this is what I was writting in 2015 to Maju...."II nquire in portugal about the serra da estrela dog and experts will shrug their shoulders and say they were...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    ToBeOrNotToBe A concise explanation for a 50 page hypothesis is hard. The question is: why the Shulaveri and only the Shulaveri, against what everyone said at the time (2015) … Tmrca, PIE dates, origin, etc. So, disengage the ACC (anterior cingulate cortex), especial if you are a political...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    You seem to be interested in my thought process for the shulaverian hypothesis (which I am grateful), and also state that MPI SHH is now pushing something similar to the Shulaverian hypothesis (thanks again). ... Let me structure a good answer and get back to you because it's complex...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    Shulaveri had copper. mainly copper beads all over and even in Aratashen that ended 5500bc had copper beads. regarding smelting... the jury is still out i suppose.
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    Shulaveri had copper. Copper beads and copper awls. Oldest copper awl is from Arukhlo...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    correct. But do not assume we have Dna from the Beaker, copos, long blades, copper smelt and ivory v buttons from Portugal. so we do not know who they were in Zambujal and Vnsp. Zambujal gives no real hope. - Torres vedras area has thousands of years of agriculture on top so all archeological...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    Exactly. That is what is so upsetting about these studies! from M269 to P312 can be several things. however, one can infer that it can only be L51 (and L151) or on the other hand S21! what else??? And having that a high percentage of S21 in Portugal also does not add up!
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    See my previous comment to you. But irrespective of climate and war (dont think anyone was good at killing back then), is clear that in iberia there was a time of fortified settlements and there was a culture of "copos" (beakers) and long useless blades that correspond to the that fortified...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    Pip, Have you ever looked into a climatic map of the holocene? This spread of mating males always seemed to be occurring after the cataclysm events of climatic freezing periods. after 8.2Kiloyear event we see a the longest climatic optimum of the all holocene and the spread of G2a...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    Oh yes it is. Shulaverian hypothesis, is born and raised in my mind, against all odds, and I took too much BS, offence and put down from too many people for, if it is proven right, me not getting the full load of credit. If you go to my runmymouth blog (Kickedoutdogs) I started detailing the...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    MOESAN Boa noite. :) This PCA from the study. POR is Portugal and cluesters to non-Iberian. For france they report about 600 samples. Alsace FR 80 Nord-Pas-de-Calais FR 68 Île-de-France FR 91 Midi-Pyrénées FR 67 Brittany FR 145 Auvergne FR 89 Provence–Alpes-Côte d’Azur FR 45...
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    The spread of 'Steppe' DNA and autosomal best-fit analysis

    https://www.academia.edu/38220415/Formation_of_the_Indo-European_Branches_in_the_light_of_the_Archaeogenetic_Revolution Its really funny, how they all change azimut so easily.... seeing John Koch making presentations with: working hypothesis PIE was south of the Caucasus Lindo.
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