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    Genetic ancestry changes in Stone to Bronze Age transition in the East European plain

    I didn't get what you mean, do you mean R1a-M417 is Proto-Indo-European haplogroup? So both Bronze Age Fatyanovo and Levant were Proto-Indo-European cultures in the 3rd-2nd millennium BC?! The fact is that none of ancient samples from the 3rd-2nd millennium BC in India, Iran, Levant and other...
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    Genetic ancestry changes in Stone to Bronze Age transition in the East European plain

    According to "The phylogenetic and geographic structure of Y-chromosome haplogroup R1a", by Peter A. Underhill et al.:
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    Genetic ancestry changes in Stone to Bronze Age transition in the East European plain

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatism: Sarmatism (or Sarmatianism) is an ethno-cultural concept with a shade of politics designating the formation of an idea of Poland's origin from Sarmatians, an Iranic people, within the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. And this is the map of Sarmatia by the...
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    Genetic ancestry changes in Stone to Bronze Age transition in the East European plain

    Which one? For example what was Sarmatian haplogroup?
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    Genetic ancestry changes in Stone to Bronze Age transition in the East European plain

    R1a-M417 is an Indo-Iranian haplogroup, it has been also found far south in the Levant where ancient Mitanni was located, there are several Indo-Iranian words in Finno-Ugric languages, so this culture certainly existed in the north of Eurasia too, we know from Sarmatia in modern Poland to India...
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    Not the Pontic Steppe, but Mukana (Mugan) Steppe.
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    Sardinian-like admixture signal in armenians around the end of the bronze age

    A migration from Sardinia to the West Asia in the Bronze Age is certainly possible, ancient Mesopotamians and other people of West Asia learned many things from them, like building ziggurats, I mentioned it some months ago here...
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    Genetic ancestry changes in Stone to Bronze Age transition in the East European plain

    About 30% of Iranians have light eyes but most of them are light brown: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452232518300210
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    There is a good point here: The Genomic History of Southeastern Europe As you see it says steppe ancestry is rare in the Balkan peninsula until the late Bronze Age (1200–700 BC) but Mycenaean samples in this study date back to 1700 BC, so there is also no evidence that steppe-related ancestry...
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    Immigrants who are "largely similar genetically", are actually "the same people with the same culture", Minoan, Helladic and Cycladic cultures were not the same, the only culture which became common in Greece, was Greek (Indo-European) culture.
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    As I said in my previous post, the main problem is that Minoans didn't live in the mainland Greece, so Mycenaeans who lived in mainland Greece couldn't obtain about 80% of their ancestry from them. About Indo-Iranians, the oldest known Indo-Iranian culture is Mitanni in the Levant, recent...
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    "If there was a Mionan-like population in mainland Greece", in fact he means if it is proved that people of mainland Greece were also Minoans then we can consider a steppe theory too. But we know Minoan culture in Crete fundamentally differed from Helladic culture in mainland Greece and both of...
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    It doesn't make a big difference, there could be also some migrations from Siberia and eastern Europe to Eurasian steppe or Armenia, Mukanians (Mycenaeans) migrated from this region in the northwest of Iran which is close to both Armenia and Caspian steppe to Greece.
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    It has nothing to do with Persians, this is Pars (Persia), modern Fars province in Iran: Armenians, Azeris, Kurds, Gilakis and other people who live in the northwest of Iran have never considered themselves Persians, in the ancient times ancient Greeks didn't live far from this region...
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    Thanks, you gave me time for writing an article about the origin of Mycenaeans: https://www.academia.edu/43450201/Mukana_Mugan_plain_South_West_of_Caspian_Sea_the_original_land_of_Mycenaean_Greeks I wondered how you considered it as a ethnic slur, by Greeks I just meant those ones that I...
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    I don't know why Greeks want to prove all cultures and civilizations came from other lands to Greece, some people from Iran/Caucasus came and built Minoan culture and civilization and then some people from the steppe came and built Hellenic culture and civilization!
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    What did they have? Those Minoan samples dated between 2900-1900 BCE have no Iranian ancestry, Y-DNA haplogroup G2a2b2, mtDNA J2b1a1,... didn't come from Iran.
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    Would you please explain about the paper which is discussed in this thread, how it negates the date on the map?, For example talk about ancient Y-DNA samples.
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    I didn't get what you mean, in the above map we see a migration from northwest of Iran to Greece in 2,000 BC, there could be also some other migrations from this region to Anatolia or other lands in 3,000 BC or even 10,000 BC, they don't relate to this study, I asked these people brought what...
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    Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

    I'm also not interested to continue this discussion, the similarity between Mukania (Mugan plain) and Mycenae could be just a coincidence, but about this genetic study, if you believe they were Minoans who migrated from Mugan plain to Greece, then you should answer some questions regarding it...
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