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Hmm, maybe. On the other hand, it basically allows men to evade all responsibility if they father an unwanted child. All he has to do is say, "well, the kid isn't mine", and then that's it? Unless French courts can determine paternity testing in such cases. The whole idea of this ban just seems...

Even a prohibition on paternity testing seems nonsensical to me. Why can't someone know who their father is? It's entirely up to the State to decide who is the father of whom? Is it based on some kind of fear that DNA tests could start dissolving French families and make society collapse? I...

J1 was just a joke... in reference to his, let's say, Middle Eastern look in his profile photo :laughing:

The esoteric, witchcraft-loving Vanir farmers could be associated with the mesolithic and neolithic haplogroups (I1, I2, G2a, E1b1b); the aggressive Aesir would represent the R1a and R1b newcomers. Eventually they stopped fighting and merged to form one people, collectively known as Aesir...

Judging by your picture as a kid - I1; judging by your profile picture - J1

It does seem bizarre that a Western European country, with a strong and deeply-rooted liberal tradition, would completely deny its citizens the right to learn more about themselves - not about other persons -, through the use of widely accepted, non-invasive, non-immoral scientific tests. It's a...

Considering a Plantagenet king himself has been unmistakably identified as G2, in all likelihood the NPE took place somewhere along the 20-25 generations between John of Gaunt and his presumed 20th century male-line descendants. Never mind king Richard's DNA results, even mathematical odds are...

Weren't the Angevins/Plantagenets reputed to be descendants of the Devil? Hell, Maciamo can add Satan to the list of famous G2 as well :laughing:

G2a back with a vengeance, after losing the Capetian line :cool-v: So this should be also the Y-DNA of some other interesting English figures such as Henry II, Richard The Lionheart, John Lackland, Edward I, Edward III, the Black Prince, Henry V...

Not to go even more off-topic than this thread already has, but how did Lebanon end up with 2% I1 and 1.5% 12b (as seen on the table on the Iberian Peninsula page)? That's more I1 and I2b than in Spain. I don't think the I1 and I2b in Lebanon could be (entirely) attributed to Western European...

What ancient populations could "European Northlands" and "European Coastal Plain" represent, respectively? MyOrigins shows that my european ancestry consists of North Mediterranean Basin and European Costal Plain. FTDNA relates the European Coastal Plain component in Southern Europe to the...

The Irish have only ever had to face Vikings (who managed to capture only fractions of the island, temporarily) and the English, in their entire History. I think most would agree about those two being some pretty heavyweight foes.. As for the Basques,, you must be forgetting that the Romans...

R1b men massacred the vast majority of haplogroup I men and stole all their women, on their own turf... imagine if R1b's were straight :laughing: That being said, tr0ll thread is obvious.

DF27, L21 and U152 are only one mutation apart from each other... so we're looking at a pretty short time frame, in a relatively limited geographic area. While I agree with the idea of DF27 having a strong non-IE flavour to it, how can DF27 be, let's say, "inherently" non-IE and L21/U152 be...

Interesting. I blame this on the fetish that Americans cultivate for Irishness and its stereotypes, i.e., the Irish being extremely pale, freckled, red-haired and green-eyed (+ riverdancers, brawlers etc). If an Irishman doesn't fit the Hollywood mold, then he must be somehow less Irish (he must...

Hey Fire Haired, welcome back. I told you you were DF27 :cool-v:

Leaving aside all the discrepancies and quirks of these genetic researches, I don't think anyone non-Spanish and non-Italian really views one or the other group as being particularly "whiter" or "darker"... At the end of the day, any given Spaniard can perfectly blend in with a crowd of Italians...

Funny how these concepts change over time... in the days when the Mediterranean was the center of the world, Greeks prided themselves in being olive-skinned and in being darker than the "barbarians" from the North (and also in being lighter than the Egyptians, it's true). Now that we live in an...

It is true that there is an array of misconceptions about Spain (coming from Americans more than anyone else), but on the other hand, Spaniards often give the impression of being staunchly devoted to minimizing/flat out denying Moorish cultural and especially genetic legacy in the country. At...

I think Italians are just overall more confident. From what I've observed, they don't seem to give a f*** about people wondering whether they are more or less pale than X or Y, or whether they have traces of Arabic blood or not. As a matter of fact, they might even have a tendency to...