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The La Braña invidivuals appear on the PCA plot of the Lazaridis study, they are grouped in the WHG category :

But, when did he said that catalans are "northern Euroepan" ?

Yes apparently he is banned.

You are lying...I follow most of Drac's posts and nowhere it can be proved or deduced he pretends that catalans be "northern european" , ..

This is second time you mention Celts in this thread when nobody has...see how it's you who is obsessed with it ? And why did you ban Drac now ?

All right...You didn't understand anything about the study or you don't want to understand. The map says it clear : based on "predicted results". Now look at the table in the previous page, where they compare this very same predicted results versus the actual observed results, now why are you...

It's not our fault if you are bloody ignorants. The map at page 76 is based on PREDICTION, how strange you didn't mention the actual OBSERVED statistics on the tables at page 75, givin spanairds a lighter shade than some Western Europeans...

Precisely the study of Jablonski gives spanairds a lighter skin than many other Western Europeans : http://anthrospain.blogspot.com.es/2011/08/skin-reflectance-of-selected-world.html

There is the ancient DNa section here at Eupedia, but it doesn't include non-european remains, like the north-african ones. In Morocco there is 12,000 ybp Mesolithic mtDNA from 21 samples : H/V/U=12 57%, H=4 19%, H/V=3 14%, V=2 9.5%

Why are you so ignorant, the "moors" never stayed 800 years in "Spain". First of all, it was only Granada that lasted the full 780 under muslim rule, most of Spain lasted from a few years to about 300-400 years, the process of reconquista was gradual. Second, it was not a "moorish occupation"...

Nope, there is mesolithic remains already in North-Africa with "european" mtDNA

Talk about distortion...I never talked about Celts or Celtiberians in this thread, it's you who is obsessed with it. What I said is just what the study of Lazaridis says, there is no "accepting of reality"... This is getting off the track for some weird reason...but neither Catalan culture is...

What are you talking about ?? The Stuttgart individual looks like Sardinians, there is no additional HG, where do you get that ? I already know this fact, in fact it's MYSELF who has talked about this layer of african admixture ocurring AFTER the farming migrations , and that is something...

Because if we take a look at the ADMIXTURe, before the Sardinians/EFF get their own component, they are split between Mesolithic HG and Bedouin : In the first link, the North-European component appears mostly as Atlantic-Baltic, and in turn, the Atlantic-Baltic appears mostly as...

It's not motivation, is what the study saiys ¡t's an unkown HG, not WHG, and yes the Atlantic-Baltic component includes some EEF genes, but since it's 100% in Hunter-Gathers, it's a close component that we have for a rough estimate of HG ancestry. If you look at Sardinians, they score 50% of...

I already know that...but the 98% wouldn't be realistic considering all the factors we know , since on the PCA they are very far from the Bedouins...Also on the ADMIXTURE run they show considerable HG component before getting their own Also, remember we have also the Dodecads of Gök4 (called...

Page 61 : http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2013/12/23/001552.DC1/001552-3.pdf

Nope, according to the study they estimate around 33% of european Hunter-Gatherer for the EEF. Also, you can see on the PCA plot they are between the hunter-gathers and near-easterns, but closer to the first. Also on the admixture run, before getting their own component, for example at K=15...

The mediterranean components (the ones which peak in Sardinians) don't originate in the near-aest. They are a mixture of early near-easterns and european (unkown) hunter-gatherers. So, yea the Early European Farmers (EFF) did originate in the West-Mediterranean area.

The pink component seems West-Med not East-Med since it peaks in Sardinians...and would be associated with I2...yes, it's a mesolithic haplogroup, but I believe this component entered in Europe already in Mesolithic, remember La Braña had decent amount of Mediterrnean, and also the that...