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    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    No one in this thread but I was just using it as an example since each and every one of us in the region are guilty at times of self-aggrandization at the expense of our neighbours. With you guys it's like the bullshit claims about Albanians coming from the Caucasus during the Middle Ages.
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    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    The only documented record we have that gets into specifics is what Krunoslav Draganovic reported about how seven Catholic parishes in Trebinje went over to Orthodoxy during the 17th century. We don't know what ethnicity (if any at all) these people considered themselves to be prior to and...
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    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    The Slavic tribes that came in the first wave of settlement prior to the Croatians and Serbians who come in the second wave. You had tribes all the way down to Thessaloniki, some of whom disappeared rather quickly, and others who were assimilated into various other peoples. You had Slavs...
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    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    This thread is a disaster for the simple reason that too many people are extrapolating too little genetic data, and then even worse they are tying it to linguistics and ethnic identities across time and space. We know the rough contours both autosomally and patrilineally in the Balkans and...
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    Vlach haplogroups & deep ancestry?

    Vucic comes from the village of Cipuljici in the county of Bugojno in Central-West Bosnia. Cipluljic was a Cincar (Aroumanian) village that became Serbian due to assimilation. IIRC the last speakers of Aroumanian in that village died out at the turn of the last century. I've asked Serbs if...
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    J2b1-M205 introduced to Eupedia

    Vlach means different things at different times. Just because the Aroumanians referred to themselves Armani doesn't mean that they weren't Vlachs. Vlach refers to various groups of Balkans, not necessarily related to one another, who spoke Vulgar Latin and often practised transhumance. Later...
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    J2b1-M205 introduced to Eupedia

    LOL, who is play-acting as Taleb?
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    Local migrations of Y haplotypes (subclades) in the Balkans

    One of the uses of the term Vlach is to denote speakers of Vulgar Latin/Latin on the Balkan peninsula after the fall of the Western Roman Empire. You are mixing modern concepts of ethnicity with a term used to encompass a very wide linguistic group that itself had differences within it.
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    Local migrations of Y haplotypes (subclades) in the Balkans

    No one claims that speakers of Vulgar Latin all spoke the same kind of Vulgar Latin in the Balkans. We have the excellent example of the Cici today in Croatia's Istra region. They migrated from Macedonia during the Medieval Era northwestwards and bypassed all the old Dalmatian/Vegliot speakers...
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    Albanian AncestryDNA results

    Unfortunately he is trying to politicize genomics like many across Southeastern Europe (and elsewhere) frequently do, hence his constant refrain of "White Croatia/White Croats" which is just as bad as some of the extreme types on poreklo.rs already attaching the term 'Serbian markers' to certain...
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    Vlach haplogroups & deep ancestry?

    Not only are genetics showing that Croatia's Serbs came from Eastern Hercegovina and NW Montenegro, we also have records of these migrations. The historical picture is becoming clearer with the majority of Serbs in Croatia descended from the Banjani, Drobnjak, and Piper tribes, but not from Old...
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    Vlach haplogroups & deep ancestry?

    There was no 'original Vlach homeland' as Vlachs were scattered throughout the Balkans, weren't the same people ethnically, and even more confusingly, the term 'Vlach/vlach' meant different things in different places at different times.
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    Local migrations of E-V13 subclades in the Balkans

    Apologies for being off-topic but can you tell me about the presence of J-M241 in Bulgaria?
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