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The thing is we can't be sure these haplotypes are BY611, right? I also found a Croatian with a very interesting haplotype DYS393=12 and DYS392=15, and one more with DYS393=13 and DYS392=11, but I'm not sure if they're BY611. There are two in the Albanian DNA project with DYS393=12. Both have...

I don't know where they are from. I know there was a new R-CTS1450* in the Albanian project, who is negative for all the subbranches except for Y18959, which he wasn't tested for. Anyway, I don't think the location of R-CTS1450* samples is that relevant to the origin of R-Z2705. We already...

I am opening this thread because this R1b-BY611>Z2705 has seen many changes recently and it's place of origin and subsequent expansion growing more and more interesting. The question I want to discuss is: Where did the ancestor of all Z2705 live? For anyone who hasn't followed the recent...

Maybe this can help you: http://r1b-pf7562.blogspot.com Is your paternal line Arbereshe? If so, it's pretty straightforward. If you don't know, tell me the earliest surname of your paternal line ancestors and maybe I can tell you if they were Arbereshe or not.

Not only false, it is dishonest, it is a deliberate lie. The people who are promoting it know this but deliberately promote falsehood. Check this out: https://orientalreview.org/2018/02/02/illyrians-autochthonous-balkan-people-nothing-common-modern-albanians/. This Serbian PhD says the...

The thing is, the person who is negative for those two SNP-s does not have those STR values, he has the standard 13 for both markers.

Thank you for taking the time! I had no idea the Greek sample was likely negative for those two SNP-s. Maybe we can test Celibashi for one of them?

That makes sense, but I don't know about the final result, maybe because I don't understand how they calculate age formations very well. The current age estimate for the mutation of Y33200 to be 1300 years old. Even if it turns out that there was a false negative, why would it mean that Y33200...

Thank you! I don't need the names. I was actually looking to compare data from the region of Alba with the other regions in Romania. Do you have any information on that? Or maybe Transyavania vs the rest, but Y-DNA instead of the mtDNA that is usually available. Do you know if he was tested...

Also, I don't know if you noticed, but the one Albanian sample with the relatively uncommon values that you were talking about earlier was confirmed Y33200, so it is not an earlier split, unless TMRCA would change taking him into consideration. So with these new results, what's your opinion on...

It could be a line from BA Central Europe, spreading with Italic peoples. Otherwise, maybe Illyrian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapygians#/media/File:Illyrian_colonies_in_Italy_550_BC_(English)_(simple_map).svg. Do you know which exact sublclade you belong to?

Albanians are the most genetically homogenous population in Europe (http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555). A very small population stuck together in the early Middle Ages, bound by a common language, a remnant of the pre-migration period. It's stupid to...

How did you calculate those TMRCA? Did the testing company give you the matches and the estimates? Or just YFull ones?

My friend just got her 23andme and Ancestry results back and she is not very clear on the interpretation they offered. I am trying to place her in a graph similar to this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fc2W-6tR-HA/Urigqts3hwI/AAAAAAAAJbg/hqZiV1TOGgc/s1600/europe.png , but I don't know how. Can...

This is a nice discussion so I'd like to summarize and clarify a few things in relation to the diversity and origin of BY611. Aspurg is arguing that atypical BY611 (DYS392=11) is eastern, and so the whole BY611 should be eastern in origin. Let's look at all the cases that have been mentioned...

You keep quoting this study but it is about mtDNA. We are discussing the male lines here, which are the most telling of Indo-european movements.

Aspurg, just a couple of questions/concerns: If you are dividing the Balkans into East and West why are you placing Aromanians from Albania in the East? The article even mentions that Aromanian groups in Albania were characterized by patrilocality (in the end of the section "Drift in the...

There's so many things you can do for protection besides kill. Sprays, tasers, if you really insist on having guns you can shoot rubber bullets. All of these stop alleged attackers without killing them.

First of all, taking warfare as the main cause of this lineage extinction for granted, killing was probably not the only way these male lines died off. Yes, many would have been killed, but others were probably enslaved and not allowed to reproduce and many women were probably taken away. All...