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  1. Fatherland

    Albanians = Illyrian

    Marko is probably Croatian, he is just a South Slav coping with the fact that he's not of Illyrian descent. Funny thing is, the more we move towards the pure Gheg regions of the north and northwest, the less West Asian & East Med the Albanians there score, without any Slavic admix, but more of...
  2. Fatherland

    Albanians = Illyrian

    90%+ of the 3 main Albanian haplogroups in Ghegs last time I checked. The more you move towards the pure Gheg regions, the only haplotypes you will find are J2b2-L283, R1b-L23 and EV13, with minor I1.
  3. Fatherland

    Albanians = Illyrian

    That's how it should be. Direct approach is the way of the Albanian. In all Gheg regions, our EV13 varies 35-40% J2b2-L283 25-30% R1b-L23 25-30% In a sampling of northwest Gheg areas I've even seen J2b2-L283 reach up to 35%, makes sense due to its proximity to the Ancient J2b2 sample. From...
  4. Fatherland

    Vlach haplogroups & deep ancestry?

    Vlachs inherit the haplogroups of the local population, they are not some unique case here. Vlachs exist in all-over Eastern Europe. They are mostly local East/South East Euros who adopted Latin in the years of the Roman Empire and onwards.
  5. Fatherland

    I2 in Peloponnesus, Greece. Origins?

    Yet Kim Kardashian looks super-Armenian, despite having a NW-Euro mother and Armenian father. Your I2 probably falls under I2a1b-CTS10228, which arrived with the Slavs to the Balkans, and Greece.
  6. Fatherland

    J2 is a major Indo-European marker

    Thread failed the moment you did not specify the branches under J2. There is a massive chronological and historical difference between J2a and J2b, way before the formation of the proto-proto Indo-Europeans, let alone the branches under each one of these.
  7. Fatherland

    J2 is a major Indo-European marker

    Indian J2b2 is not J-L283, but falls under Z2444, so you are wrong. You should go further back when opening this discussion, to the most basal clade of J2b2, that being: J-M241
  8. Fatherland

    Albanians = Illyrian

    Let us clarify this once and for all. Albanians, Ghegs in particular, carry 90%+ of the old y-lineages of Illyrians: It seems people in here cannot deal with this fact, it is a large pill to swallow, yet it is the truth.
  9. Fatherland

    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    This. And Albanians are direct descendants of the Illyrians. J2b2-L283, R1b-L23, E-V13 all found in the Ancient Western Balkan samples. You should test yourself and see what haplo you got.
  10. Fatherland

    MyTrueAncestry Mytrueancestry.com

    Wait, so through some algorithms we can now feel that we wuz related to some Ancient people named "Hellenic Roman", "Central Roman", "Visigoths" and so on? Conclusion: This test is autistic, created for people with identity issues. Of course, the team of Mytrueancestry.com is located in the US...
  11. Fatherland

    Who were and are the Albanians and their DNA

    Greeks, especially the mainland Greeks have way more Albanian-type yDNA than vice-versa. Not surprising since much of mainland Greece was Albanian-speaking until a century ago or so. :)
  12. Fatherland

    Map of J2b and it's two major clades

    Basically sums up the whole thing. Mycenaeans did not practice Tumulus burials, it was indeed more of a Illyric-Doric practice, practiced by the ancestors of the Albanians, and Achilles. One can find Tumulus everywhere in Albania. Yetos, seek mental help, you're going insane.
  13. Fatherland

    Who were and are the Albanians and their DNA

    8 years ago, as opposed to the various hysteric, 2-digit IQ South Slavic lightbulbs that still post today. Some Westerner got it right already back then: Btw, loled at I2a-Din back then being designated I2a2. I2a2 doesn't exist in South Slavs, but in Albanians and Greeks. I2a-Din =...
  14. Fatherland

    Who were and are the Albanians and their DNA

    These old shots in the dark in the post I quote below have been all debunked.:D Nice try idiot, but you were damn wrong. This is great to observe who is biased against Albanians, just by checking old posts like this one, and I'm sure they haven't changed their minds yet, despite all genetic...
  15. Fatherland

    Macedonians

    From what I observed, and I am always right: Only the Albanians ITT wrote sensible posts. The others, lashed out with projections of their own insecurities.
  16. Fatherland

    Kosovo Albanians Haplogroups?

    Why is that word even censored here? :laughing:
  17. Fatherland

    MyTrueAncestry Mytrueancestry.com

    Irrelevant to the discussion.
  18. Fatherland

    MyTrueAncestry Mytrueancestry.com

    Ghegian Y-lineages are completely Western Balkan. That's what these people can't get through their thick sculls.
  19. Fatherland

    MyTrueAncestry Mytrueancestry.com

    Albanians are in a perfect cline between Illyrians and Ancient Grecian groups, many of us closer to Illyrian. Makes perfect sense considering our geographic position between this sample and Greece. Now you should stop being a retard when it comes to Albanians and git gud at deciphering...
  20. Fatherland

    Bronze Age Vucedol Culture R1b Z2103 / L23

    The Ancient J2b2 sample is from the hinterlands, mountains near the coast. J2b2 peaks in north Albanians(Ghegs), with frequencies varying between 20-30%. Some Albanian regions up there contain as much as 35%. West Balkan South Slavics barely have any of it, I think Croats have 3-5% at most.
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