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    sea peoples

    1) Veneti and Venedi are clearly tribal names of same origin...... well, let me draw it to you: while in english one reads 'G' of Germani like in George, in Serbian 'G' of Germani is like in goverment.. that doesn't mean those are different people... does it? Jordanes is clear that it is...
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    sea peoples

    well, relations of Palestinians and Jews to sea people is purely hypotetical and based on similarity of names Peleset, Philistines and Palestinians... but note also that sea peoples were heterogeneous... on other hand I am pretty convinced that Kurds largely origin from actual sea...
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    sea peoples

    not sure.. I think I2a3-L233-western might have been separate people... it is very sea oriented as various Veneti are... but it goes more north than any I2a... Norway, Finland, Frisia, UK if I need to map it to some fairly recent people, it would be Vikings... hm, along Black sea...Georgia and...
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    sea peoples

    note that I have placed Adriatic Veneti in same group with I2a1 Sardinians and Celtic Veneti... and with Germanic I2b spread... I do wonder whether I2a2-Isles might be introduced by migrations of Celtic Veneti to UK... btw. this reminds me on Germanic and Celtic languages being more related...
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    Politics Osama Bin Laden is dead

    I do not see much gain from Bin Laden's death. It is on other hand likely pretext for new 11/09... I've heard India was urgently buying weapons some time ago.... perhaps they found out Bin Laden's death will happen now, and that it is likely to trigger instability in Pakistan.....however, I...
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    who were Slavic people?

    http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showthread.php?26076-sea-peoples&p=371381&viewfull=1#post371381
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    Who were and are the Serbs and their DNA

    sea peoples invasion explains how Serians mentioned by Seneca are Cimmerians, and related to Veneti and how both Serians and Veneti are same race - I2 people Serians are without doubt the source of tribal name of Serbs and of I2a2 genetics of modern Serbs more on thread about sea peoples...
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    sea peoples

    to analyze origin of spread of a YDNA branch it is useful to look at spread of parent branch I2a* is so far found only in 2 locations - one matches Adriatic Veneti and other matches Britanny Veneti... http://www.familytreedna.com/public/I2aHapGroup/default.aspx?section=ymap its parent branch...
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    sea peoples

    btw. again please note that I do not speak of languages but about origin of people...about haplogroups, tribal identities... from the point of language it is not correct to call those people proto-Slavic as we cannot know how close/distant to Slavic language it was...as far as we know it might...
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    An Approach to ancient Thracian DNA

    Zanipolo, I will move give answer to your question about Veneti and Trojan war to sea peoples topic..it fits well there... if you do not even know that I1b1 was renamed to I2a2 long time ago than better do not write about genetics...it seems even I2a2 is outdated name now... I guess your...
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    Dropping the Atomic Bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki:

    why on earth do you need to conquer Japanese islands? if they lost the war, that does not mean USA had right to occupy their land... and especially the right to test new horrifying weapon on civilians how is civil population of two big towns an enemy? in what way is such an attack different...
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    Turkish Dna, Research of Haplogroups C, E, G, I, J, L, N, Q, R and T

    Dalmat, I fail to see any relation of your post to topic.... I was talking about turkish origin of proto-Croats which fits well in the topic... what games? proto-Croats are turkic... that is clearly stated in the books of some respectable historians... but if you do not trust me... find out...
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    sea peoples

    hm, good point... Greek name is based on relation to Taurus area or due to man who led Etruscans to Italy.... another possibility is that Greeks added Tau in front of Rasena to indicate some mixture of cultures or whatever... Rasena might have been R1a tribal name... Etruscans probably did...
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    "I2a" and "I2b" are about to mean something different...

    that is completely unexpected... what could have happened 8500 years ago? I could find only this... don't know if this could have triggered volcanic winter in northern hemisphere.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_millennium_BC
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    sea peoples

    oh, sorry... I did not carefully reread what I wrote... it sounds as very strong statement but it was not meant to be....its strength was related to my strong impression that it must be the case, based on speaking shortly before that on this forum with someone who is Kurdish speaker and who said...
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    An Approach to ancient Thracian DNA

    lol, you do not care for mentions of Veneti after Christ because ancient Veneti do not exist in that time, and than you do not have problem to identify ancient Veneti with Venetians from 13th century :) Illyrians and Adriatic Veneti could have been dominant or strong in J2... that is quite...
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    sea peoples

    if you start on shores of Black sea attacking Hatti, than you want to continue by both land and sea... to do that you need to make land bridge to Arzawa..this bridge is exactly where Kurds live..and Kurds are related to Slavs genetically and linguistically... that gicves sound foundation for my...
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    sea peoples

    Taranis, read again (post was edited)... read order of attack.....look pictures... try to think... How on earth can you attack Hatti from Sardinia and Sicily? suppose they could have crossed Dardanelles and made big port in southeast of Black sea why would you start attack there if you are...
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    sea peoples

    I speak of origin of people not of languages that is why I use "proto-" in front of those words... again, you use linguistics... languages change faster than you think... if you move a tribe from sea to inland, after some time they will lose vocabulary about sea... any linguist will tell you...
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    Y-DNA Haplogroups in Iraqi Kurdistan

    I have theory that Indo-Aryans were J2 with some G..alternatively they could have been R1a as those 3 haplogroups are present in Bramins http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showthread.php?26093-Indo-Aryans I did not know that there is Dardania in Caucasus as well Dardanians lived in area of Kosovo...
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