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Macedonia and Thessaly may have had more Steppe influence to begin with, as shown by the MBA samples. I think that 15% is overrated for Greeks overall.

I think you are being a little bit hard on Greek academies. Not many academies have done extensive research on DNA of the inhabitants of the Bronze Age in their region. Where would Greek universities get the funding for these kinds of research post 2010 Greek economic crisis? Not that simple...

I think we are missing the point. In looking at the difference between the Mycenaean and modern Greek samples we clearly notice that the modern Greeks have more Steppe and more Eastern Mediterranean ancestry. Now Dawidski claims that some classical Greeks were Cypriot like. We also know that...

I find it quite remarkable that Log02 and Log04, two Middle Bronze Age inhabitants from the same settlement do not genetically overlap. This indicates to me that one of the two may be mixed. If we look more closely, then we can notice that Log02 plots half way between Log 04 to the Mycenaeans of...

That's not actually a problem, if it were true. The samples are from 2000 BC, and the population density of Greece during that time was very low. We may be talking about 200.000 people. Perhaps less. Now, the rest of Europe was even more scarcely populated during that. But not so much Anatolia...

Considering most of the Ancient Greek texts are written after the Iron Age, it is quite possible that the Helladic and Cycladic people of the Early Bronze Age are the people the later Greeks would refer to as the 'Pelasgians'. The people with a lot of Steppe admixture residing in Thessaly and...

Interesting. Given the results it is safe to assume that some differences between mainland Greeks and Greek islanders (as well as Sicilians and South Italians) are not solely due to medieval migrations, but also due to Bronze Age and (quite likely) Iron Age migrations. That said, it seems to...

Why would they want that? Given that they do in fact have a lot of DNA similar to the people who founded Rome. DNA from a Germanic invasion breaks that continuity.

The way I interpret it, is that the proto-Greek world further North is different from the Mycenaean Greek world. The Mycenaeans are more closely connected to the Minoans. They were probably a set of proto-Greeks who descended from Thessaly, Epirus and intermixed with them. Creating the Mycenaean...

Old habits die hard. The people who made these claims are not up to date with modern historical, anthropological and genetic evidence. And the old judgments were made absent evidence. They are related. In fact, ancient Greeks are are by far the main source of ancestry of modern Greeks. We are...

Interesting, the Iron Age Greek (I9123) overlaps with modern Greeks from the mainland. It's the only post-Mycenaean sample we have of Ancient Greeks. After the supposed Iron Age migrations and the decline of the Bronze Age world. And the specimen is from Crete no less. An indication that there...

Seen many Greeks with West - and Central Europe. Wonder why that is? Perhaps some Greeks on average have more Steppe than others, and My Heritage puts that in the Northwest European cluster. So their calculators make up Greek+West European to account for the extra Steppe. Greeks who have less...

Still, Greeks and Jews are closer to each other than Hungarians and French. At the very least, one could argue that they have gotten closer than they were in the beginning. I am not arguing a similar origin. But many Greeks look more like Jews than they do Serbs or Turks. Just a coincidence...

Because the same study shows that they may be as much as 60% South European. And 15% Eastern European. That looks pretty similar to the Greeks to me.

The Greeks, South Italians and western Jews are quite similar in many ways. Perhaps they were not in the beginning. But they are quite similar today. The Jews have a large chunk of South European admixture. But they had separate roost, yes.

Wasn't Cyprus mainly colonised by Mycenaeans (Achaeans) during the late Bronze Age? Migrations during the Iron Age can explain that E-V13 might have come to Greece through post-Bronze migrations, and henceforth to Cyprus.

E-V13 is also found in Cypriots. Disproportionally compared to their adjecent populations aside from the Greeks. If it wasn't brought by Mycenaeans, then the question is from which source it got there.