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Archaeologists estimate the formation of proto-Greek as early as 2200 BC. Obviously the Mycenaeans were formed later. So Kamenice, if not associated with Greek culture, should be older than that. Or the exact location was not in some parts of the green area.

Archaeologically, the Green zone does fall within the proto-Greek zone around the 2nd millennium b.c. Save perhaps the part north of today’s Thessaloniki, which was probably overrun by Doric tribes during their expansion during the Iron Age.

There has already been severals studies whicy indicate that South Slavs are heavily influenced by Slavic admixture in the Middle Ages. Now Greece is a different story. But I would assume some degree of Slavic admixture was absorbed by Greeks as well. Sure, recent studies are showing that the we...

And yet, Greek Thessaly is even closer to the Paeonians than the Greek Macedonians who inhabit the neighbouring region of Paeonia. Indicating that there was some Slavic admixture in Greek Macedonia as well. There was probably some Slavic admixture in Thessaly as well. It’s just that the...

Are Macedonian Slavs taken into consideration in the G25 coordinates you posted? If so, then why did they not make the list? After all, they inhabit the Paeonian region. Not the Italians and Greeks. So there is a degree of population replacement. Doesn't this also apply to Greek Macedonia...

As you argued, they are Paeonians and not Macedonians. So why use them as a proxy for Macedonians? They are supposed to be different people. Geographically Macedonia is located at the Aegean. While Paeonia is inland territory, separated from Macedonia by a mountain range. And when I think of...

Also, the Ancient Macedonians lived on a small piece of land called Emathia. They descended from the Pindus mountains by the thousands. There were Mycenaeans on the coast of Emathia. The Macedonians had also pushed Paeonians a bit more Northwards. There were also other tribes living there called...

A Cretan-like Ancient Macedonian is much more likely than a modern Greek-Macedonian like Ancient Macedonian.

Do not discard the time frame between the Hellenistic Age and the Slavic arrival. Macedonia, Pella, Thessaloniki became an epicentre. It attracted migrants from other parts of the Greek world and Asia Minor. This could have reduced Steppe ancestry in North Greeks By the Roman Age. Then Slavs...

How many haplogroups would qualify as a race? And how many wouldn’t?

Yes indeed. My point is that Vlachs are no longer genetically uniform, even though they had common cultural roots.

The Vlachs in the Balkans may have common roots. But as they migrated around in the Balkans, they absorbed elements of indigenous people. I.e. a Vlach from Serbia would have some genetic affinity to Serbs.

Greeks actually very much like Slavs. It’s only that in this context, namely some conflicting territorial claims, and the by now outdated overstatements of Slavs replacing Greeks, made some Greeks seem somewhat anti Slavic in such forums. In reality there are no anti Slavic sentiments among...

Cyprus was a continuation of the Bronze Age Anatolian mainframe, prior to the arrival of the Mycenaeans. The modern Cypriots likely represent the Anatolians from the Iron Age all the way to the Byzantine Age. As they are a Mycenaean/BA Anatolian mix. Mycenaean Peloponnese is only one picture...

There is a difference in Autosomal DNA though. Uniparental evidence over millennia can be misleading.

I think they might have identified IE Logkas (4/10 Steppe) as Ancient Greek. Hence the highest rates of Ancient Greek in Thessaly. Then all the pre-Greek Minoan etc., as well as well as West Asia-Minor post-Bronze Age admixture falls under Hittite/Luwian. Finally, for the high Slavic rates they...

What is certain is more and more high Steppe individuals were moving South from the North as time went by. There will be outliers on every side. Since the language shifted to Greek we should name them proto Greeks? We know that the new migration culminated to Greek. Not Illyrian. So why equate...

I argue that during the Bronze Age there is an intermediate line between Mycenaean Greece and the North Balkans. One will find E-V13 within that line. Epirus is somewhat isolated due to the Pindus mountains. Tribes from the Adriatic could go South, and Mycenaeans traveled North. Resulting to an...

So you argue Linear A to be Greek?

I think the epicentre during the Bronze Age may in fact be in Northern Greece. Some indigenous tribes in mainland Greece may have been largely E-V13. Mostly mountain pastoralists. Indigenous tribes who were not Minoan. I am seeing an intermediate line starting from Epirus, Thessaly, Macedonia...