The issue with your hypothesis is that Croatia IA and Bulgaria IA existed after the BA Mycenaeans. And yet you argue that these Balkanians became Mycenaean-like, prior to the Slavs. While historically we only know of migrations North to South, not South to North. Also, if MBA Thessalians were to...
There is a lot of free interpretation here. You can argue that modern Greeks received more of the same source which turned Minoans into Mycenaeans. By this very model Mycenaeans could be 85% Minoan + 15% Slavic. In retrospect, if the proto-Greek source came from Epirus/Thessaly/Macedonia region...
What are the two classical Greeks? Is that the one from Empuries? What is the other one?
Did you use the two Thessalians from the Middle Bronze Age (Log 1 and Log 2)?
If you ask me even 30 Slavic admixture in mainland Greeks is quite moderate. The percentages of the mainland may or may not be true, but at the same time they are quite misleading. This is because for starters, the largest metropolitan centers (Athens and Thessalonica) have attracted Greeks from...
Anatolia had its own metropolitan centers. If anything, Thessalonica may have attracted people from other parts of mainland Greece, and why not the islands. Besides, if any Anatolians settled in Thessalonica I suppose they would be from adjecent areas like Thrace/Constantinople or Ionia. People...
I think a replacement is unlikely, given that the second capital of the Eastern Roman Empire was in Macedonia (Thessalonica). In medieval times it would have been very hard for migrants to replace populations which lived in metropolitan centers. But there certainly has been intermixing in...
For starters almost half of the Greeks in Macedonia hail from Asia Minor due to the population exchanges. So there is more than 50% popopulation replacement to begin with. So I wonder wether people who estimate that Greek Macedonians have 40 % Slavic ancestry or something of the sort, actually...
Someone made a good point. The Persian empire is not on the list. Definitely one of the greatest empires ever.
I would argue that the greates empire had nothing to do with extent, but the heritage it left behind for humanity. So I would narrow the list of the greatest empires to the Roman...
E-v13 may be low in most of Turkey. But consider it is only 20% in Greeks. So if the average in central Anatolia is, say 5%. Then it means that 25% of the population may have Greek ancestry. If E-V13 is 10% at the Aegaen coast of Turkey, then that would indicate half of their ancestry may be...
The IA Balkanians are paralel to modern Greeks overall to be honnest. Perhaps these tribes migrated South at some point or multiple points of time. I am thinking that there may have been a difference between Greeks inland and Greeks on the Southern coast and the islands. The Thessalian Greeks...
I think that it is evident that post IA, Illyrians, Greeks, Romans and what have you, were not genetically uniform. As such, even if in theory no other people have been absorbed since then, the modern offspring can not possibly overlap with the ancients. Since those ancient people with genetic...
Italians are closer to Ancient Balkanians due to East Med admixture in Greeks and Albanians. Perhaps we are focussing too much on the additional steppe admixture in the Balkans today, rather the question is when did the East Med admixture arrive? The Greek from Marathon had plenty. I can...
Cypriots and I think Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews may fall in C5 category. Pehaps some Sicilian outlier as well. This kind of people are usually very Greek like, but have some Near Eastern admixture as well. I.e. Cypriots could be Achaean Greeks with some Near Eastern admixture. After all, the...
It would not surprise me actually. Peloponnesians are very Mediterranean. Perhaps it's not so much about with whom they mixed with since the Bronze Age, but rather, who they were before that. Starting from the Neolithic.
As far as I know, modern Cyprus and BA/IA Anatolia are the same genetic continuum. They are very similar. After the Bronze Age collapse, people from Attica migrated to Asia Minor, culminating to the Ionian Greeks. They always held close ties with the Athenians and spoke the same dialect. So it...
Very interesting. Either way, this would put the post-Classical Greek closer to the modern Greeks than the Mycenaeans. Especially since the modern Greeks have more East Med ancestry compared to Mycenaeans. It seems this post-classical Greek shares that attribute. I would suggest that this Roman...
Indeed, Athens would not be a good indication of the make up of the classical Greeks. Just like Rome, it says little about the Italic population during that time as a whole. Even though Athens was not as multi cultural as Rome. Most slaves were Greeks or Thracians. Otherwise there were migrants...
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