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  1. Wonomyro

    How "Slavic" are South Slavs?

    Curta's theories on Slavs are passé. Genetics improved in a meantime so we now know much more on the origin of Sout Slavs then we knew ten or fifteen years ago.
  2. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    There's lot of fun (with etimologies) here recently. :laughing:
  3. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    That would be even more hilarious... I mean, ETHNICITY?..:embarassed: :laughing:
  4. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Hilarious :D
  5. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    I hope that you noticed that here we mentioned a specific subclade of I2 which is I2a1b-CTS10228. It is virtually absent in the territories of former Roman Empire which were never exposed to Slavic migrations.
  6. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    IMO, the biggest issue with the "Illyrian" theory is that virtually we can't find any trace of I2a1b-CTS10228 on the other territories of the former Roman Empire. It is well known that the Romans were dividing and deporting parts of populations to different locations within Empire thus...
  7. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Translated: "The jurisdiction over the Orthodox believers of North Macedonia [by Serbian Church] was gained by paying an amount to Patriarchate of Constantinople, and banning of the Bulgarian Church". (https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srpska_pravoslavna_crkva). The population was called "South...
  8. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Some did also shopping. :D
  9. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Yes. Even some western historians still don’t get that. In the past, yes. However, during the period of national awakening in the 19th century a power of religion was often used as a tool for homogenization of populations around national ideas.
  10. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Obviously, there is a modern nation called Montenegrins and we should respect that. Their "Serb" identity is related to the fact that they are officially still under a jurisdiction of Serb Orthodox Church. In an Orthodox Christian word, a church jurisdiction was very often misinterpreted as...
  11. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Ok, then let us see how Romanian speakers “brought I2 in Balkans” and where from. Where did the Romance languages came from to Balkans in the first place?
  12. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Not quite true. Some folk songs still keep a memory of pagan gods. Do not underestimate language as a backbone of any ethnic identity. In Croatian case, I can present you evidences of ethnic awareness of people throughout history, as well as a language continuity. Croats have been...
  13. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    The ethnicity is not determined by genetics at all. However, it is related. Imagine that someone say that Romanians are not "fully Romanians because they live in plains: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallachian_Plain Slavs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs
  14. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Genetic Landscape of Slovenians: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgene.2018.00551/full https://www.frontiersin.org/files/Articles/416192/fgene-09-00551-HTML/image_m/fgene-09-00551-g002.jpg...
  15. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    A pure fantasy.
  16. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Surely they did. But not much more then the rest of Croats, Hungarians, and other populations that share the same cluster did. What I can see here is that the territories of the former Roman provinces of Panonnia and Dalmatia are genetically pretty much rounded up.
  17. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    However, the Bosnian Croats are autosomally MUCH closer to Kajkavians (northwerstern Croats) then to Albanians, so I don't see your point. The "difference" that you stressed is insignificant when you put it into a larger context. In this PCA plot you can see where Bosnian Croats plot in...
  18. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Data in a way it is presented above is a bit misleading as one can't easily compare distant blocks, e. g. Hungary is for some strange reason moved into the group with France (West Europe) even though there is striking similarity between Hungarian and Croatian data and the both countries share...
  19. Wonomyro

    Ancient genomes of Srubnaya, Cimmerians, Scythians and Sarmatians(Science, 2018)

    It is similar to a Croatian sample. Our dominant R1a is R1a-Z280. However, the I2a is more common then R1a, most probably due to a founder effect. For that reason I believe that the medieval Croats and Slovenians came to their present countries with the same migration wave. Were they both...
  20. Wonomyro

    I-CTS10228 Dinaric subclades and distribution

    Griego could have been a Orthodox Christian.
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