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  1. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    You should have read the article about the Battle of Sisak. It was a turning point. Serbian uprising occurred when the Empire was already dead. We speak here about hundreds of years.
  2. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Do you mean the speakers of Štokavian-Jekavian dialect who lived around Dubrovnik Republic? I’ve told you already. In their dialect (Easter Herzegovinian, Štokavian-Jekavian), the meaning of the term “Serb” was not an ethnicity but a faith. That is a hard fact. It is not surprise that the...
  3. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Not Serbs but Orthodox Vlachs were settled by the Turks to protect the borders of the Ottoman Empire. The border was cutting through the Croatian territory. The western part of Croatia successfully stopped the Ottomans in 16th century. It was not favourable to be Catholic Christian in the...
  4. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    What makes you think that all those dialects, including the Štokavian-jekavian dialect form Herzegovina, were genuine Serbian? The speakers of that dialect who lived in neighbouring Dubrovnik Republic never called themselves Serbs (except a group of intelectuals during the short period in 19th...
  5. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    I am afraid that you made a mistake. Take a look again into my post: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/37329-Are-South-Slavs-more-Balkan-Native-than-Slavic?p=559883&viewfull=1#post559883 The text you are pointing to was not quoted. That means that the sentences were mine, not from the...
  6. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Why should any Serbs convert to Catholicism and start to call themselves Croats? What’s the point? How did that happen? Ottomans destroyed all Catholic churches in the territory they occupied. New churches were rebuilt as Serb Orthodox. How is it possible that anyone there “convert” to...
  7. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    The only language, that has a word Serbian in its name, was abandoned in the early 19th century in favor of "Illyrian" which was de facto Croatian standard before the official standardization. The term Serbo-Croatian was invented in 19th century as well. What was Serb cultural contribution to...
  8. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Croats never "converted" from anything. Where did you get that from? Serbian propaganda again?
  9. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    I'd like to answer to you question but I do not know what quote did you not found. Both quotes are from the same article. Here is the link to the original post so you can check both quotes again...
  10. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    You are constantly messing up Serbs from Croatia with Serbs from Vojvodina. The personal anecdotes of yout Serbian fiend are not relevent here.
  11. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    The Cyrillic-Latin split was not a split between Croats and Serbs during the middle ages. That is a common mantra of Serbian nationalism. Serbian version of Cyrillic was different then the one used by Catholic Croats. There is not only one local historical document where the letters of so called...
  12. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    I don't see how your comment relates to what I said. I said - no sample cherrypicking. That has nothing to do with Hitler/Stalin or any other nonsense.
  13. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    I haven't denied any "connection" that is visible from data. I only deny assumed connections that are not proved by data. That's what we all should stick to. Daily politics, "Ustashe" and discussions who we like or not, have nothing to do with the subject.
  14. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Of course it was. I left a link to an article with more detailed explanation. What exact detail have you not found?
  15. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Their father was called Nemanja. Nemanjić means son of Nemanja". As I said. No, it isn't. Croatian ethnonym appeared first time in 9th century in titles "DUX CHROATORUM" which means "Duke of Croats". The Croatian medieval culture appeared about the same time and has continuity during the...
  16. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    I don't take word for anything. I take data. No cherrypicking. From papers if possible.
  17. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    The Serbs who "are related to Croatians" are mostly members of a Serb minority in Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina. That's understandable. In forums they are usualy referred to as "Western Serbs", so I use the same term too. I've never heard that anyone use a term "North Serbs". These should...
  18. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    There was no other Srbian language than that before 19th century: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Serbian_dictionary_(1791) When Serbs finally accepted the language "that was used in Croatian schools" the latter was no longer called "Illyrian" but got a new politically correct...
  19. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Modern Serbian. Not old Serbian.
  20. Wonomyro

    Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

    Please name these "Serbo-Croatian" texts which are "found around Dalmatia".
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