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hm, that can be expected as those tribal names exist related to Slavs Zeruiani from whom Slavs origin- Serians of Seneca - Sorani Gorani - Gorani are they distinguished from other Kurds by R1a or I2a? or both?

Some historians list Serbs into Sarmatians and even into Alans, but I am not sure about that...Seneca's Serians lived among Sarmatians but were not the same... Ossetians are thought to descend of Alans but they are dominantly haplogroup G...though in one of tested towns they have also...

some Serbian/Slavic - Kurdish common words that I found on some blog on internet that are probably non PIE derived and are not iranian/persian serbian/slavic - kurdish - english zakon - zagun - law kazati - kiza - to say (persian : goftan) dan - dan - day koza - gîsi[k] - goat kratko/kortk...

actually, I* in those testings meant probably only that they did not bother to go into determining subbranches of haplogroup I as it was not considered relevant.... so, sea peoples theory is still on... and Sherdana can easily be proto-Serb and proto-Slavic tribe...

yes...interesting point..... in my posts proto-Slavs are Cimmerians = Serians = Zeruiani and related Veneti (Cimmerians descended from Gomer and Veneti from his son Riphath in Hebrew world view) but I did count them as I2a people...perhaps they were I2a + R1a already in start early Slavs...

sorry to disappoint your dreams of being Turkic, but Pomaks are just Slavic people who converted to islam during Ottoman rule.... similar happened in other areas ruled by Turks - e.g. in Bosnia there are lot of islamized Slavs as well... Serbs used pejoratyive name Turks for them, but it was...

that would still be far better than having tribal name that means blood like Croats and related Huns do... Hrvati (tribal name of Croats) is related to Slavic word 'Krv' = blood Huni in iranian languages also means blood http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_languages but it is normal that...

I find this clustering very interesting... of course if sample size is not large enough then results may be somewhat inaccurate, but it does give fairly good picture that matches some expectations.... remarks: 1) proto-Turks make only small part of genetic pool of nowdays Turks (east Asian...

ethnic and language groups of Europe have very mixed history and many influences... thus, going back from any ethnic or linguistic group of today leads to many different tribes of past.... there are few facts regarding Slavs to consider 1) their genetics is clearly European which indicates...

nope, you did not debunk any of them.... you are using set of very poor linguistic arguments as evidence of what is possible and what is not possible ethnic origin... more one goes in past more ridiculous are those arguments...

well you were so far ignoring all my arguments... so I see no essential difference in that respect...

nope... tribal name is not just a word... it is an identity!!! much more than language is... you can move to other country and your son may speak different native language than you did, but his last name will be same as yours and of your father and grandfather... in few generations language...

you are so black and white... and trying to project classifications of today on past, and even on distant past... I argued that Boii were part of Slavic ethnogenesis... and that hat participation may have left imprint in languages...e.g. that slavic words for war, battle, soldiers are related...

this is thread about haplogroups and not about linguistics... as I indicated in many occasions languages are useful only for analyzing very recent history as they are easily changed...again where are Celtic languages of central Europe today, where were latin languages 2500 years ago and where...

why not? do you have any written text of Boii? how do you know that Slavic languages are not just mix of languages spoken by Boii (perhaps I2a2 people) and the ones spoken by Sarmatians (probably R1a people)? sure, for comparison do you know what word "germ" means? origin of tribal name Boii...

I think I did emphasize that in Slavic languages Boii = Boj = battle Vojnik/Bojovnik = soldier, warrior while I can imagine people having for own nation tribal names related to heroes, battle, warrior......I can not imagine people having a selfname cattle... that interpretation can only...

it is not, but strategic games are not changed over night... USA won cold war by pulling down iron curtain... as a result of this it has spread its influence via NATO far into east Europe... that makes Russia nervous as it needs to be sure to preserve vast natural resources in Siberia for its...

yes, that can be explanation - Suebi = free as opposed to the ones who willingly subjugate to other peoples... slave is not opposite of freeman, as slaves are obtained in wars and thus not from the tribes who willingly subjugate but from the ones who decide to try to stay free... note the cult...

actually, they did speak same language... word is related to areas and people where populations spoke reminders of latin based languages ... in some cases latin language was lost but name stayed (e.g. in Wales which used to be stronghold of Roman empire with many settlements of latin...

perhaps your liberal ideology makes your views fuzzy and unrealistic, but world is and always was governed by force of stronger... I do not think Kurdistan will be independent any time soon... Turkey is important part of NATO and in case of NATO-Russia war will have to do largest sacrifice...