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    Who were and are the Albanians and their DNA

    Yes of course all the rest of European descend (some with higher some with lower %) from Early European Farmers as their all mixed, however i was arguing that highest percentages with descend from Early European Farmers are: 1: Sardinian 2: Albanian 3: Greek 4: Spanish 5: Bergamo 6: Basque...
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    I said (as study argues) current populations of Sardinian, Albanian and Greek are de facto a direct descent (with highest % then other populations) from Early Neolithic European farmers (10,000 ybp). (read above for more explanation) I never said Albanian or greek that they were in Balkans at...
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    Study gives percentages of those populations who have near eastern component Sardinian Albanian and Greek has nothing to do with (at least not before 10,000 ybp) with near eastern component, or they might have the very very lowest % then the rest of populations from the source. You are either...
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    You "cant say" are your some kind of Scientist? read below some science please The most parsimonious and scientific explanation is that Albanians hav been in that area since at least the Bronze Age. Anything else is just more Balkan obfuscation for ethnic partisanship and an attempt to make...
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    Seems like you are prejudging everything, of course name as Russian came late (probably 1,000), however proto Slavs would definitely have R1a as a majority (and some of other slight mixtures) according to Maciamo Also according to the research "Slavs" and whatever dna they brought, which would...
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    Thanks for posting this Angela, it looks like the study is pretty consistent with the last one as per Albanians and Greeks although this one goes more into details. By far the highest rates of IBD within any populations is found between Albanian speakers—around 90 ancestors from 0–500 ya, and...
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    Albanian speaking regions have R1a around 5.8% average. Albanians in Kosovo (2 mil) 4.4%, Albanians in Macedonia (800,000) 1.6%, Albanians in Albania (4 mil) 9.1%
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    Correct, so it looks like the proportion of Sardinians Albanians and Greek have the highest percentage as per descendents from the early Neolithic European Farmers Fig. S9.24 shows that when WHG admixture is added to EN, residuals for most European populations are reduced, consistent with most...
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    Thats why i mentioned Early Neolithic through mid Neolithic (10,000 - 5,000 ybp) because through that period we have early Neolithic Farmers from south east Europe. Now we are not talking here before 10,000 (please pay attention to wording) Therefore, Albanians and Greeks are descendants from...
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    Who were and are the Albanians and their DNA

    In addition, New Zealand scientist source you have placed Russell D. Gray & Quentin D. Atkinson, University of Auckland, New Zealand Came upon this video of PEI spread, tell me if you see if Albanian has same root as indic and Iranian nor even Armenian LOL <strong>...
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    Who were and are the Albanians and their DNA

    Sorry to break this, but you have misrepresented the whole study...please read below (and you haven't answered the questions below) Originally Posted by Garrick New Zealand scientists used new computational-modeling method. Their result is that Albanian has same root as Indic and Iranic...
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    Who were and are the Albanians and their DNA

    Yes from Lacan 2011, however they have used this data that they already had to make computations (and for new skeletons they have done new dna plus used the data afterwards) I think one E-V13 is used if we count the samples from fig 4.2 and 4.3 then there are around 69 samples.
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    If you say so, can you answer the 2 questions above then?
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    Study argues, as i am only representing this Study. Don't you understand EEF means (Early European Farmers, early Neolithic) the orange color Albanians = 65% WHG means (Wester European huntergathers) blue color Albanians = 17 % So only one question i have, how...
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    Palasgians, pre Ancient Greeks...would their DNA be E-V13?

    So you think you are smarter than 45 scientist of this study and coming up with your one worded conclusions as of completely wrong?....Give me a break please. So from 69 samples there are only around 30 from Early Neolithic (including 1 E-V13) to Mid Neolithic (all the Yamnays and R1a are...
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    Who were and are the Albanians and their DNA

    There is 1 Early Neolithic of Spain E-V13....have a closer look (pg 49) First author Year N Country Period HaplogroupEUROPESeguin-Orlando25 2014 1 Russia Upper Paleolithic H/G C1- F3393Haak3,+ 2008 1 Germany Late Neolithic R1a1-SRY10831.2Haak10 2010 1 Germany Early Neolithic G2a2b-S1262 Germany...
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