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Haha, Margoudi has been reinterpreted 10 times at least :). I just wonder how long the lax attitude of the Turkish government towards these Pontic speaking musicians will last. Thank you for the recommendations. I browse Youtube for new Greek groups all the time.

Pela Nikolaidou has a better voice and Babis Kemanetzidis is better at kemence: If you like a male voice how about Adem Ekiz: Adem is Pontic Greek speaker, a muslim who has done a great job trying to preserve the rich musical heritage. Also during the ascendancy of the bouzouki, a lot of...

Listen to the songs in this collection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTg3g1p9KNs or this collection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQph_mHh6YM and tell me that you don't see an inheritance. Remember also that 100 years have passed so there is some evolution. I o agree that the bouzouki...

Maybe he confuses the Ionian coast, where Smyrna is located with the Ionian islands. The modern Laiki music is mainly derived from Smyrnaiki music with some influence from Constantinople music. I think Constantinople music is a bit heavier, more "oriental". We are talking about dimotiki music...

Did your folks lived in any of the Greeks islands occupied by the Venetians like the Eptanesos or Crete or close to the Venetian castles spread all over?

But you are closest to Northern Greece and Albania samples. Also When they say Greece and Southern Italy they don't necessarily mean that you are part Italian. Similarity does not mean direct ancestry. Maybe you share a common ancestor with a Greek emigre to Southern Italy 2800 yo ago.

No such history as far as I know. In the 2 way a 51% Bulgarian and 49% Thessaly is not the least squares solution but it is the most believable at 3.53.

But the second one is Thessaly not too far away from Bulgarian. I wonder if there was a population movement in the Byzantine ages, from Thessaly to Eastern Thrace. At 5.7 or 5.83 it points to a mixed ancestry. Of course it really depends on the ethnic groups you are modeling. If there was a more...

Man of god dances a divine Malevisiotes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0jeYbfADrI

Funny that he's an Iranian:laughing:. The thing about traditional Greek music is that there is such a variety. Thracian music can never be confused with Epirotan music or Ionian Island music with Cretan. Even within Thracian music You have the East Romylia music and the mainstream Thracian...

Did you conveniently forget that they are vey close Deep Mani? You are also mixing ancient and modern populations. Also the difference between Cypriots and Mycenaeans is very small.

^^^^^^^^^^^ Kinda makes sense since my folks have lived in Thrace as far back as I could trace. But I am definitely mixed judging from the 5.7 distance.

Kari you are definitely mixed like me. My results: Greece and Southern Italy 59% Balkans 33% Scandinavia 5.1% Ashkenazi Jewish 2.8% My K13 results: # Population (source) Distance 1 Bulgarian 5.7 2 Greek_Thessaly 5.83 3...

Is there a breakdown of the frequency of the E-Z5018 subclades with their corresponding TRMCA?

Living DNA updated my ancestry estimate: Europe (East) 67% East Balkans 60.8% West Russia 3.6% Pannonia 2.5% Europe (South) 32.9% Aegean 23.7% South Italy 9.2% Europe (East) 67% East Balkans 60.8% West Russia 3.6% Pannonia 2.5% Europe (South) 32.9% Aegean...

I am not lecturing you, I am reinforcing what you have said in the past, you and Angela. and I totally agree with you that we need IBD instead of these least squares models.

This is common wisdom at Eupedia for a while now and we have warned people against using populations that have a lot of overlap. No problem with EEF and Yamnaya but when starting mixing already admixed populations then you encounter large errors. Also with regards to giving more weight to...

Jovialis, you probably do not and not all Balkanites that lived in Slavic countries had yet admixed with Slavs and Avars in medieval times. Also Avars were an umbrella of different tribes some of which are local tribes aligned with the Afar Khaganate.

Those are pretty close distances to Slavic samples. Not unusual though. In 2019 we stayed in a tenuta in Rossano, Calabria and our hosts were Serbians that migrated in the 1100s with the last name Greco :). Apulia is even closer to the Dalmatian coast. In another town, I heard some Arberesh. I...

It is well known and accepted that there was slavic genetic input into the current Greek genetic makeup just like that there is a significant contribution by the Pontic, Cappadocian and Ionian Anatolian Greeks and the Thracian Greeks Nobody is disputing that. Nobody is disputing the input from...