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How am I misrepresenting them when I quote from the study using the authors own words?

I actually like to reform our libel laws. Right now you have to prove malice to win a case. The standard should be that if you said something that is untrue about another person or company you should be able to sue them for libel. For example if Wapo says that Trump go peed on by a Russian...

He's a story teller not a historian or an ethnographer. His travels are not extensive enough to gain first hand knowledge of all the different tribes and ethnicities. Even he admits that some of what he writes are second hand sources. Thucydides even complained that he was a story teller.

^^^^^^^^^^^ Are they using different shapes to differentiate among populations or are just using colors?

Here's an observation. Like a lot of other places/countries Greece has or will have a population decline due to lower birth rate. On top of as the old people die off the villages and small towns are emptying out since the young people are moving to the cities. So who will work the fields. There...

Hmmmm... the lyra is a Thracian lyra and not a Pontic one. Still enjoyed it though.:awesome: I do like orchestral renditions of traditional songs toggle more depth plus the recordings are first class.

If I am not mistaken, there was not one Greek (from Greece) Byzantine emperor (although the Byzanties never called themselves Byzantines, they called themselves Romans). The Byzantine emperors like the Roman emperors moved populations around to counteract depopulation due to wars, famine and...

Can you please run them though the different calculators?

First let's address you assertion that it was based on genetic analysis. Within the paragraph you quoted there were two references to other sources. One, reference 55 is "Vandorpe, K. Idnetity in Roman Egypt, 260–276 (Oxford University Press, 2012)." Not a genetics article. The second reference...

Jovialis, it's remarkable that Modern Italians are 3 times closer to Ancient Greeks than the first Modern Greek.

Endogamy was practiced in tribal societies. From my understanding of Albanian practices men were allowed to marry outside the fara (tribe) but women were not. Albanians please chime in if I understand the rule right. It is done to preserve land and wealth within the fara. My grandfather's...

I'm all for people marrying within their own culture or not marrying within their own culture. When there are significant legal and religious and property based limits to marrying outside the tribe or religion they do not. But in the Ancient Greek religion, there was no prohibition against...

Maybe the Mycenaeans were the early migrants into Greece and the other ones came later by a century or two or three giving them more time to admix with the steppe people. Or the Mycenaeans were mainly locals with very little steppe input from the Greeks.

My one sister who is Thracian married a mainland Greek from Aitoloakarnania the other married a man from Chalkidiki. So people don't necessarily marry people from their villages and small towns they marry people from other areas. My uncle married an Arvanite woman. People are not just marrying...

I said up to 30%. Look, modern Greeks are an amalgam of different admixed people. We had a lot of immigrants from Pontos, from Eastern and Northern Thrace, the Greek communities of Western Anatolia, Constantinople, Egypt and some communities on the Black Sea. People from the Eastern Thrace area...

Does the Himera study count? Was it the Limes study that established that modern Greeks have up to 30% Slavic admixture+70% Mycenaean ? All I am saying is that there were Greek outposts all over the Mediterranean and the Black Sea. Some of them were very far away from Greece and by necessity...

Congratulations to all the pure Greeks that went back to Greece and brought back Greek brides and had their kids marry other Greeks. But this is not about personal experience is it? If I go by personal experience my two best friends and I all married non-Greeks or mixed Greek Americans. I go by...

Wanderer you actually should run GEDmatch's Oracle's for whatever calculator you're using. BTW, in 1940 there were 250,000 Greek descent people in Egypt. Now there are about 1,000. If this person is one of the descendants of the 250,000 I would expect some Egyptian/Middle East admixture. No...

Even a 10 month siege is way too ambitious. The time frame of the fall of Troy is right at the rise of the Sea People and the fall of the Mycenaeans. I am not sure from what we know of the Sea People that they had the means or the numbers to mount such a long siege.

Some people even elevate Homer as a historian when the actual archaeology does not support a 10 year war with the number of combatants present. We would have found a lot more arrowheads, swords, pottery, heck even scat. Same thing with the battle of Thermopylae in which Herodotus estimated the...