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    New studies says that Anatolian IEs came from East

    Ok but the question now is, what was the Deep Ancestry in Iran_Neo? Clearly, CHG is not Iran_Neo right? And Dzudzuana and therefore ANF didn't have ( or not that much ) Deep Ancestry, so was the CHG in Steppe, CHG, Dzudzuana or Iran_Neo or even Something Else?
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    New studies says that Anatolian IEs came from East

    What does ANA stands for? Ancient North African?
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    New studies says that Anatolian IEs came from East

    Interestingly the two male samples of Progress, PG2001 and PG2004 are the one that were found as R1b-V1636, such as the one from Late Kura-Araxes. Coincidence?
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    New studies says that Anatolian IEs came from East

    In the extended datas Conservative and Speculative, CHG has at least more than 10% of Deep Ancestry and almost the same % of AG3 so ANE ancestry. So i might guess the 37% are ANE from Dzudzuana + AG3? But then where comes into that picture the Deep Ancestry?
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    Asian "grooming gangs" in England

    There was this old story of 2003-2004 where a teenage girl from northwest england was groomed by 2 guys of a kebab, she disappeared and there was rumors that the 2 guys " raped here, killed here and made kebab meat of here body ". It was a very popular and frightening topic back in the days...
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    New studies says that Anatolian IEs came from East

    No, nothing about Dzudzuana came. In what they said, CHG is supposed to be dominantly Dzudzuana, little bit of ANE and little bit of Deep Ancestry. But the question is, is CHG in the Steppe really like Kotias or Satsurblia? Is there Deep Ancestry in them? There is clearly an ancestry on the line...
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    New studies says that Anatolian IEs came from East

    Let's wait for the Dzudzuana release, and see how Steppe individuals and Kotias/Satsurblia reacts towards Dzudzuana ancestry.
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    New studies says that Anatolian IEs came from East

    It's maybe nothing but, recent samples from the Caucasus paper showed R1b-V1636 in some samples, one thousand years after, the same R1b clades is found in " Late " Kura-Araxes as R1b-M415. This lineage, V1636 is nowadays almost found in south caucasus and anatolia. There is a possibility of...
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    That is extremely mean and pretentious. One could ask himself if you actually are a good human being with some of your response to other beings.
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    1) My point was never to make a link between Anatolians Lydians and Italians Etruscans and Tyrrhenians if this is what you understood. My point was to make a deal between modern hypothesis like linking Lemnian, Rhaetian and Etruscan languages with ancient greek myths, like a kind of syncretic...
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    The story line is that Tyrrhenus wich was a Lydian, went to Italy with his people called Tyrrhenians. The whole point of the hypothesis is the mythical or historical ( for modern pov ) pov of ancient greeks about Etruscans and the similar language of etruscans and lemnians. It's even wrote...
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    I get what you mean. I dont think Herodotus was necessarily wrong, he only lived 700-800 years after the times of the bronze collapse and sea peoples. He was closer to them in age that us from Charlemagne. Contrasted with Plato and the Atlantid, Herodotus was a man of History and Geography, he...
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    I agree with the last point, but it's maybe more subtle. Let's imagine a little scenario, if originally Etruscans were from the Aegea / Western Anatolia near the Lydians, if they migrated at some point with Sea Peoples, then the Greeks could have assimilated their origin, with the contemporary...
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    At this point, we cannot be sure Western Anatolians ( Aegean Anatolia ) of Iran Age were either Anatolian-like or Iran-like related and not Myceneans. If it turns out to be the third option, then it would make a huge links between Mycenean-related ancestry and ancient Italy.
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    Moesan hypothesis about Tyrrhenians / Etruscans relationship in terms of Ethnonymy is not necessarily wrong. It's a bit awkward in terms of Linguistic considering Lydians were Indo-Europeans and Etruscans not, but an Ethnonym dont necessarily have to do with Linguistic. Also, Tyrrhenian being a...
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    I dont have any conclusions or thoughts about Etruscans, you didn't understand what i meant by scandals. People jumped on the J2b sample to say, it proves Etruscans were from Balkans or Anatolia. Or that the little North African ancestry could make them from Africa. Other users created those...
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    I believe most scientists have hard-driven bias to be honest. They are hiding them by omission, but each time a hot study about their bias is released, it's like the waking of the dragon, and the behavior and words used are different than in general. In general i try to omit details of studies...
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    In the case of Davidski and is wrong predictions. I think is reputation is playing against him, a lot of scientists had their intuitions show'ed to be wrong if we think about it, but in case of Davidski, it's playing against him for people that already do not like him. As for is Steppe ancestry...
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    Moots: Ancient Rome Paper

    I have a question, i have a read a lot about " Amateur " tools especially going against Anthrogenica or Eurogenes. But how actually Amateurs can know whether Amateur or Professionnal Tools are Corrects? This would make them Professionnals right? I really hate that situation where only the "...
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    How did Proto-Indo-Europeans (R* R1b/R1a) lose Mongoloid characteristics?

    Why Lose? Nothing is Lost, it's just used to create new things. If, Mongoloid traits there was, they just evolved by mixing, they did not disappear. They are in details, sometimes hard to see. And who said that Mongoloid traits were Mongoloid at the beginning and not that Mongoloid traits are...
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