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Hey I think you pointed this out in the past that the Anatolian Farmers introduced the light skinned allele into Europe. That's the irony of the "I'm an indigenous European"from the NW Euro crew who have minimal genetic connection to hunter gatherers and much greater genetic affiliation with...

Target: Anthony_C_scaled Distance: 2.0073% / 0.02007299 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC 37.2 Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks 19.0 Europe_East_Central:Balto_Slavic 18.2 Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks 14.2 Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians 11.4 Europe_South_Central:Sicily_Sikanoi 0.0...

Through research I discovered that my maternal grandfather was fully Arvanite and even with a 1/4 Arvanite (the rest standard Peloponnesian) I tend to cluster with Southern Albanians and have numerous matches with folks from Korce.

Distance to: Anthony_C_scaled 0.02160412 Greek_Thessaly 0.02221181 Albania_South 0.02430551 Albania_North 0.02469069 Greek_Macedonia 0.02520784 Greek_Peloponnese 0.02524797 Albanian 0.02625618 Greek_Eastern_Thrace_simulated 0.02735002 Greek_Central_Sterea_Ellada_simulated...

Updated K13 has my distance from Central Italy greater so not sure if with K13 it's a lack of a samples compared to G25 or what but there's a discrepancy. 2.65237629 Albanian_South_Albania 3.45168075 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa 3.53305817 Greek_Euboea_South 3.79386347 Greek_Messenia 3.80545661...

Here's my G25 modern pop averages comparison: Distance to: Anthony_C_scaled 0.02160412 Greek_Thessaly 0.02469069 Greek_Macedonia 0.02520784 Greek_Peloponnese 0.02524797 Albanian 0.02790092 Greek_Central_Macedonia 0.02822096 Italian_Marche 0.03157852 Italian_Molise 0.03171735...

Southern Italians/Sicilians cluster with Deep Maniots and/or Tsakonians (who are East Med like) but in general not standard Peloponnesians (more Balkan like) who are typically closer to Molise and/or Marche.

As a Peloponnesian Greek my closest G25 Italian population is Marche or Molise. I do agree that Deep Maniots and Tsakonians may cluster with Southern Italians and/or Siclians.

Actually I'm Peloponnesian and cluster with Central Italians; Marche typically first. Deep Maniots or Tsaknonians cluster with Abruzzo or other Souther Italian Groups but from what I've seen on G25 Peloponnesians, Thessalians, Rumeliotes, Epirotes cluster with Central Italians.

I've been there it's great!

How in the hell are Albanians Arab looking when their genetics are a mix of paleo-balkan and slight Slavic. There is absolutely no Arabic/mid Eastern admixture in Albanians. They also have a negligible amount of CHG (Caucasus) as well so no overlap genetically with Armenians. There is such...

This is starting to to remind me of an Apricity thread. Angela where are you?

Obviously you nothing about genetics and phenotypes. Ok lets start with mainland Greeks. Most cluster genetically with Central Italians and Albanians, followed by Bulgarians, then Serbs. Mainland Greek phenotypes are extremely distant from anything remotely Arabic/Levantine looking. Now if you...

No Winter Haven (Cypress Gardens). My dad had a restaurant there for 50 plus years (from 1954-2007). The food wasn't Greek but we had a few "Greek like" dishes. My dad was well known in town and the restaurant was pretty popular in the 60's, 70's, 80's. i really miss good Greek food as well and...

You hit it on the head! I've traced my paternal roots to Arcadia (settled in Messinia) from the mid 17th century. Long line of mountain folk and sheepherders who may have originated in Thessaly and/or Epirus. The Atlanto Med phenotype was considered prevalent by Coons (take it for what it is) in...

No but I grew up in Central Florida back in the 50's/60's. My parents moved there in the 40's so they had to assimilate. Most probably thought my dad was Italian but certainly not my mom. Overall we fit in as did most other Greeks. Yes I'm a 1/4 Arvanite on my maternal side. My grandfather was...

Thanks for your response I really appreciate your insights!

Angela any opinions?

I'm an old ugly f"""k

I'll post family members for reference; my mother, aunt, cousin, myself, my dad