• Don't want to see ads? Install an adblocker like uBlock Origin or use a Europe-based privacy-friendly browser like Vivaldi or Mullvad.

Search results

  1. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Wow his top 6 are all Greek! Beautiful!
  2. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Yes my paternal grandparents’ were originally from two villages (mile apart) in the mountains SW of Petalidi (Kokkinon and Paneika) Messinia. These 2 villages were settled by sheepherders from Arcadia. My grandfather’s family settled in Messinia in the 17th c from Alonistaina Arcadia and my...
  3. matadworf

    Ottoman Empire (Balkans)

    The Klephts were sort of forced into that lifestyle given the extreme poverty of the region.You had a number of wealthy Greek families who along with the Ottoman beys taxed the peasants and this I'm sure contributed to their angst. In the Morea I believe the "hatred" for the Turks came from...
  4. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    No actually Myceneans have higher Steppe: Target: GRC_Mycenaean:I9033 Distance: 3.4885% / 0.03488502 | R4P 57.6 TUR_Barcin_N 17.4 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res 16.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Caucasus 8.4 GEO_CHG Target: Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 Distance: 1.1605% /...
  5. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Wow I forgot to add the NE Empuries sample. That population consisted of settlers from the Anatolian Coast who were originally from Central Greece and apparently Doric speakers. I'm guessing they had higher Steppe than the Myceneans.
  6. matadworf

    Ottoman Empire (Balkans)

    Honestly I sometimes wonder had Greece remained under Western Catholic influence (prior to the schism) and the Byzantine empire was restricted to Anatolia how life in middle age continental Greece would have been different. What if Venice had seized complete control of the Morea and made it a...
  7. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    I know the difference. I’ve been to Greece 5 times. All of my family is from the Morea. My maternal grandmother was from a village called Paliochori that borders on Tsakonian villages. I’ve been to Kosmas and Leonidion. My paternal side is from Messinia and I’ve been to exo Mani. I dated a full...
  8. matadworf

    What music are you listening to?

    I've been a jazz collector for years so I'm typically listening to post bop pianists like Herbie Nichols, T. Monk, Bill Evans, Red Garland, Horace Parlan, Carl Perkins, or Sax players like Art Pepper, Sonny Rollins, Harold Land, or someone like Pharoah Sanders.
  9. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Hey these autosmal comparisons are in "good fun" and I don't believe anyone is saying that if they cluster with an ancient population then they're a direct descendant. I'm super close to the Logkas 2 sample as are Tuscans and other Central Italians so are we genetically linked? Hardly. We just...
  10. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Yes I agree the standard modern mainland Greek is pretty much a mix of Classical era Greeks (or something of the sort) with additional Slavic admixture. I will say that the entire Greek mainland is pretty uniform genetically. This was pointed out by someone on this site several years back...
  11. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    I agree many Greeks of the Peloponnese stayed put in their own regions for years (particularly Deep Maniates and Tsakonians) but I can only speak from the research I did on my paternal line that their families moved South to Messinia (from two villages in Arcadia) with their flocks in the 18th...
  12. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    I believe the IBD sharing with Slavs (Poles) within certain Peloponnesian Groups in the Stamatoyannopoulos paper was anywhere from 5-15%. I believe Elis and Messinia were the highest overall. The Steppe component (which can be as high as 34%) in mainland Greeks isn't necessarily Slavic it could...
  13. matadworf

    David Reich Southern Arc Paper Abstract

    I read somewhere that all 3 papers (it is 3 right) could be published by as early as this coming Friday.
  14. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Because they're sort of like the standard Peloponnesian probably absorbing some Slavic admixture that didn't make it to Deep Mani. The Deep Maniots essentially overlap with Cretans which I found astounding.
  15. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Thanks! I actually enjoy it. It's sort of like therapy for me and gets me away from my work!
  16. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    It’s a shame there are so few Sicilian samples. That could be part of the reason.
  17. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    I believe it’s an expanded collection that includes simulated K 36,, K 13, Dodecanese, and G 25. However, those samples are from 2019 (not sure when those you mentioned were added) so I’m sure there’s been a lot of additions since then. I believe there were several K 13 samples from the...
  18. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Ancient Greek samples GRC_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA:Kou01,0.1161,0.176702,-0.016216,-0.086241,0.024928,-0.038487,-0.00329,-0.007846,0.01268,0.054306,0.005684,0.013788,-0.021258,0.013074,-0.024565,-0.015115,0.00665,0.004687,0.008045,-0.013381,-0.009483,-0.004946,-0.000986,0.010363,0.002155...
  19. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Italian_Liguria:ALP099,0.113823,0.146236,0.027153,-0.011951,0.029236,-0.002231,0.00235,0.001154,0.009613,0.025331,-0.009743,0.002847,-0.013082,0.001101,-0.001086,-0.012463,-0.00665,-0.00038,0.003771,0.00075,-0.00025,0.000989,0.003944,0.000723,0.000599...
  20. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Italian averages Sicilian_East:EastSicilian2H,0.105855,0.146236,-0.003017,-0.046189,0.018465,-0.013945,0.00188,-0.004615,0.007772,0.021868,0.005359,0.006594,-0.015312,0.000963,-0.007329,-0.006497,0.000522,-0.004054,0.005405,-0.005503,0.00025,0.001484,-0.002588,0.005422,-0.000599...
Back
Top