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  1. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Greek_South_Tsakonia:TSAK-7,0.113823,0.149283,-0.00528,-0.041344,0.018157,-0.015618,0.003055,-0.004615,0.006136,0.022233,0.006008,0,-0.000743,0.003028,-0.018594,0.010342,0.018906,0.000633,0.006034,0.006628,-0.00262,0.00136,-0.00037,0.002048,-0.001197...
  2. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Greek_Macedonia:678,0.121791,0.144205,0.011691,-0.022933,0.028928,-0.006414,-0.00047,0.004846,-0.00225,0.014579,0.000325,0.003297,-0.011596,0.006331,-0.017508,-0.002121,0.013951,-0.005448,0.01986,-0.005378,-0.003619,0.000371,0.007395,-0.000241,-0.008143...
  3. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Greek_Dodecanese:664,0.106994,0.145221,-0.02489,-0.054587,0.002154,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.004384,-0.002863,0.019499,0.00341,0.002548,-0.002676,-0.005092,-0.016694,-0.00305,0.010952,0.007095,0.003142,-0.004377,0.00025,-0.004328,-0.004437,-0.006627,0.003233...
  4. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Greek_Crete:754,0.105855,0.142174,-0.010936,-0.042636,0.006155,-0.017291,0.00329,0.006,0.005318,0.016401,0.003897,0.014087,0.000892,0.002202,-0.004343,-0.016706,-0.008475,0.003927,-0.000754,-0.009379,-0.016845,-0.003957,0.008751,0.008555,-0.003592...
  5. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Greek_Central_Anatolia:G2503,0.108132,0.141159,-0.032432,-0.055556,-0.012618,-0.023148,0,-0.002538,-0.020861,0.013303,0.009581,0.001349,-0.003122,0.006744,-0.014251,-0.001193,0.01369,-0.002914,-0.000126,-0.003877,-0.001248,-0.001731,-0.000616,0.002169,0.000718...
  6. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Greek Averages Cypriot,0.0997375,0.146744,-0.0378534,-0.0702525,-0.0070011,-0.0242986,0.001645,-0.0047594,0.0029656,0.0138728,0.0044454,-0.0001499,0.0025459,0.0018234,-0.0086014,0.0008947,0.0023631,0.0009978,0.0022469,-0.0012506,-0.0024489,0.0011438,-0.0027115,0.0017774,-0.0020656...
  7. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Yes the Maniates are a proud people and it's amazing how isolated (and genetically homogeneous) they've remained given the various incursions into Greece from the early middle ages on. There is historical evidence that they received some additional input from Crete (pirates?) during the late...
  8. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    I'm thinking that certain folks were hoping that Myceneans would have such "high" steppe!
  9. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Target: GRC_Logkas_MBA:Log02 Distance: 1.0405% / 0.01040510 | R3P 50.6 TUR_Barcin_N 26.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Caucasus 22.6 BGR_EBA Target: GRC_Logkas_MBA:Log04 Distance: 2.5275% / 0.02527466 | R5P 47.0 TUR_Barcin_N 40.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Caucasus 12.0 BGR_EBA 0.2 Baltic_LVA_HG
  10. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Is that what you were thinking? See above
  11. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Distance to: GRC_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA:Kou01 0.06643596 Greek_Deep_Mani:ARE-19 0.06853872 Greek_Deep_Mani:ARE-9 0.06959476 Italian_Apulia:Pu3 0.06992838 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew3 0.07020552 Greek_Dodecanese:668 0.07100033 Italian_Campania:CMP_b007_2 0.07173089 Greek_Crete:730...
  12. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Ok I’ll give it a go
  13. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    Target: GRC_Peloponnese_N:I3708 Distance: 1.4388% / 0.01438842 86.8 TUR_Barcin_N 5.6 TUR_Barcin_C 4.0 TUR_Isparta_EBA 3.6 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA Target: GRC_Peloponnese_N:I3709 Distance: 1.8677% / 0.01867660 69.4 TUR_Barcin_N 17.8 TUR_Isparta_EBA 9.2...
  14. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    It appears Sicilians are closest to Myceneans which isn't a surprise as are Deep Maniots (who tend to cluster with Cretans).
  15. matadworf

    Comparing Ancient Greek populations to modern Greeks and Italians

    I was playing around with a number of Bronze age samples today just to get an idea of how they compared to both Italians and Greeks. I know this discussion has been had in the past (beginning with LeBrok back a few years ago) but I wanted to see for myself the proximity of modern (Greek and...
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    David Reich Southern Arc Paper Abstract

    If the Steppe people were pastoralists didn't they sort of combine herding with farming. Farmers, I would guess, were herders as well. What you see (less so now than 30 years ago) historically in mountain communities of the Balkans;Greece, Albania, Serbia, Bulgaria are folks who are essentially...
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    David Reich Southern Arc Paper Abstract

    They'd probably move to the country and raise their own food which i've been doing for years. My family moved to the US (Wyoming) from Greece (where they were self sustainable mountain folks in the Peloponnese) in the early 1900's and have a tradition of hunting, fishing, raising our own food...
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    David Reich Southern Arc Paper Abstract

    I’m super interested in the Steppe admixture of Classical Greeks particularly Laconians.
  19. matadworf

    Neolithic mtdna from Greece

    My background is Peloponnesian Greek and my maternal line is U3a3a and from what I’ve learned (recently) is that my maternal grandmother’s village was settled by one of the Slavic tribes in the Peloponnese (always believed it was Tsakonian but recently learned otherwise) haven’t done a deep dive...
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    Ancient Balkans Y-DNA lineages

    Thanks much for that info!
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