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    Haplogroup I1 Origins

    For anyone interested in the origins of Haplogroup I1 from when it diverged apart from Haplogroup I2 around 27,500 years ago to when the last common patrilineal ancestor for all modern I1 lived around 4,600 years ago I have a video that I created in the link below that analyzes the relevant...
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    I1/I2 Split To I1 TMRCA Mystery

    I’m posting this in this general y haplogroup thread instead of the I1 section because I feel that what I’m about to write applies to any subclade branch with many phyloequivalent snps. I feel that the I1/I2 split to I1 time of most recent common ancestor mystery may never be solved because a...
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    Sampling Bias

    Sweden: 1291/2850=45%, 10m Norway: 579/1537=38%, 5m Denmark: 202/555=36%, 6m Iceland: 42/132=32%, 0.3m Finland: 664/2421=27%, 6m Netherlands: 229/983=23%, 17m England: 2176/10996=20%, 55m UK: 736/4127=18%, 66m Germany: 1278/7326=17%, 83m Scotland: 797/5835=14%, 5m Wales: 126/922=14%, 3m Belgium...
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    I1 Migration Story

    I1 more than likely has a Scandinavian origin and most of the early subclades probably do as well. The purpose of this thread is to give your opinion as to when, how, and with which subclade your paternal ancestor left Scandinavia (unless they are still living there). I think that my mutations...
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    Who were the ancestors of the Flemings and Wallons?

    I found this I1 map of the over 7,000 participants in the I1 project at FTDNA to be quite shocking considering my father is I1 and is from Wallonia Belgium and because based on the 140 Wallonia participants from the Benelux Project 10.5% were I1.
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    Deep Y Testing

    Is the Y chromosome pretty much mapped out by current Big Y 500 or FGC Elite 2.1, or could some hypothetical test in the future provide more refined analysis and many more snps? I’m deliberating if I should do deep Y chromosome testing now or later in the future when technology perhaps becomes...
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    French DNA

    I understand that France has a lot of genetic diversity with people plotting all over the place on PCA charts depending on their location in France. That is why I feel French HGDP got it right by combining multiple locations including Strasbourg, Grenoble, Marseille, Lille, Nantes, and Paris...
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    Ancestry DNA Update

    Ancestry DNA will be rolling out a new update in the next 2-4 weeks. It looks promising for people who have Ancestry from the old “Europe West” region. The old region is now separated into “Germanic” and “France.” Furthermore, in France there is even a “Basque” region.
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    24 Genetics

    Normandy, France 37.45% Hauts de France 9.2% Auvergne, France 2.75% Rhône Alpes, France 1.25% Galway, Ireland 17.70% Connacht, Ireland 6.9% Piedmont, Italy 13.1% Cantabria, Spain 4.7% Finland Karelia 2.9% Lithuania 1.75% I’m half French Canadian so the large Normandy score is not...
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    How much history did Christianity destroy?

    I feel that there are certain mysteries the human mind and science will never be able to answer such as an ant never being able to appreciate the beauty of a Van Gogh painting. These mysteries include something coming from nothing, time regressing backwards to negative infinity, matter being...
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    Are Vikings overrated?

    I think Vikings and Caribbean Pirates had certain character traits that are romanticized such as independence and courage and other psychopathic traits that are vilified such as theft, murder, and rape. People respect courage and it definitely took courage to go on adventures and to explore...
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    Y Chromosome Mutation Rate

    Is there any data out there regarding how regularly the Y chromosome mutates? How many generations on average? There are some people who have taken Big Y and have been assigned a subclade about 2000 years old or 60 generations in the past. I think this is due to not enough people having had...
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    I’ve seen this question talked about incompletely many times in several threads; however, I’ve yet to see it clearly answered. Why is there such a huge discrepancy for the “Iberian” or “Southwest European” category amongst the different companies? On Ancestry, DNA Land, and Wegene I receive...
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    Future Updates?

    Do you think Natgeo will ever make any updates to the profiles of its pre Helix members? They still have my haplogroup listed as I-P30. Every other company I see at least refers to I1 as I-M253 or a lower subclade. Should they have run our raw data through the new Helix algorithm to give us...
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    Yfull Raw Data Transfer

    I can't seem to find an answer to this question on the yfull website so I will ask it here. I have not purchased the "Big Y" package from FTDNA. However, I have purchased several individual SNP tests from them and have figured out my lowest subclade so far available. My question is will...
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    Tool for K36: your similarities rates on maps

    It appears that England is more closely related to northern France, Belgium, and west/central Germany than to the Netherlands or northern Germany. The Celtic portion of the admixture seems to be more prominent than the Germanic portion.
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    Earliest I1a

    What is the earliest I1a evidence in Europe? I see that I1 and I1a are used interchangeably but since I1 could be about 27,500 years old and I1a about 4,600 years old I think it's important to differentiate between the two. Also, because I1a accounts for 99% of I1 it can be confusing for people...
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    I1 Subclade Percentages

    I understand that DF29 accounts for 99% of all I1 and I think there is more Z58 than CTS6364 or Z63. My question is which subclades further down the phylogenetic tree account for the highest percentages of I1 tested thus far and which subclades are very rare? Has there been enough testing thus...
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    Haplogroup Database

    Do DNA companies share their results? Is there any website or testing company that has the most comprehensive database for y haplogroup subclades? For example if I look up y haplogroup I-Z382 on family tree DNA I see mostly matches in England with only a few Scandinavian matches. However If I...
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    Recent Wars and Bottlenecks

    After doing some reading I've noticed that migrations thousands of years ago are often referenced as reasons for the y-DNA frequencies we see today as with the Indo Europeans, Celts, Romans, Germanic and Slavic peoples. My question is what impact did the wars of the last 500 years in Europe have...