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  1. Vitruvius

    Art that symbolizes your heritage

    Lupa Capitolina; symbol of Rome - the city that unified the Italy and weaponized her strength to conquer the world.
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    What you've called "Western Iran" which is labelled with 2183km is not historically Iran, but part of the Armenian highlands, which historically has been populated by the Armenian people prior to their genocide and mass depopulation in the 20th century. It's just north of Lake Van which is...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    Of course. I don't disagree that they were much more distinct in the bronze age. But by the iron age there likely is a significant amount of W. Anatolians migrating to Italy in the Magna Graecian sphere. At this point these peoples simply considered themselves Greek and not very distinct from...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    Western Anatolian pottery by the early Iron age was in fact Greek pottery as well. These areas of Anatolia had adopted all aspects of Greek culture, religion, language and material culture. Obviously that does not prove migrations from Troy, but it is a great oversight to assume Greece and W...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    It means a huge migration from Greece to Southern Italy. This is not a debatable topic and is not something that is even questioned. You're going to have to get over these Iranian mass migration fantasies. Italy's "Iranian-Related" DNA is actually from the Caucasus, just like any other part...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    That's fair. You are free to your opinion as is everyone. I'm more than willing to accept a solid refutation of the story if evidence exists for it. The same goes for evidence in favor of the idea. As you said it's a beautiful story but I am personally ambivalent as to whether it occurred or...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    The Magna Graecian colonization of Italy is archaeologically backed as real in countless of sites with several cities hosting populations that were larger than Rome. We have definitive proof large sums of greeks were already living in Italy by the early iron age. This is not a strange theory...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    The Trojan wars are archaeologically supported with the Troy VIIa destruction layer. Their fine details are unknown but the fact of the matter is that Troy was razed to the ground by roughly 1180BC before the mycenean world would fall into steep decline. Personally I believe the war was real...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    I don't see an issue with the dating. I think many fail to realize the scope of how distantly related Romulus actually would be to Aeneas assuming the legend is true. Romulus and Remus would have been the 14th generation of Aeneas' line of descent based off their reported genealogy as can be...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    The Carthaginians in particular were extremely heavily admixed with Sicani/Elymian and Greek populations based off the Kerkouane study and other leaked PCAs. Evidence from grave markers, which list ancestor names and occupations also indicate an abundance of Oscan names amongst Carthaginian...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    The Trojan origin story is effectively impossible to prove or disprove through aDNA to begin with. We are not talking about a scenario in which the Trojans kill off the native inhabitants of Latium to repopulate central Italy, but where one distant ancestor of Romulus and Remus through the...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    In my opinion the idea that CAS054 has a direct and recent SSA contribution is highly doubtful. They're almost certainly north african mixed of some type and I imagine this individual to be around half iron age punic and half iron age etruscan. We see these kinds here and there uncommonly in...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    Likely Southern Italians who had received a large amount of ancestry from assimilated Magna Graecians. Magna Graecians in turn of course originate from both sides of the Aegean, and as all Greeks do, bare significant ancestry from the neolithic Caucasus (most specifically the Armenian...
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    Tuscan-like moderns clustering with the Felsina Roman Imperial average is a big revelation with this study. It's only four samples but the implication here is that Aegean ancestry is dropping significantly by the time it reaches the southern extent of Po Valley. The next major question is the...
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    Users requesting to be banned

    Absolutely. That's precisely the reason I like Eupedia much more than other anthro sites. The discussion is usually always much more grounded on the prexisting history or archaeological data of given population sites rather than much more outlandish fantasies. The quality of members here is...
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    Etruscan DNA: Tarquinia, ninth–seventh century BC, central Italy

    It looks like Felsina IA does broadly cluster over prior Etruscans from the Tarquina area near Latium, interestingly. Three of the four imperial samples appear to cluster over modern Tuscans which implies a much less dramatic increase in aegean ancestry than what is seen around Rome. The last...
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    Users requesting to be banned

    Perhaps he was having some issues in his personal life and simply wanted some help in spending less time on the anthrofora sphere more broadly. Just a guess, but whatever the case I wish the best to him.
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    Users requesting to be banned

    Francesco asked to be banned? Did he ever say why? I always liked his contributions and that's a real shame.
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    Photo-real portraits of Roman emperors

    Agreed, but to add to your point most Roman busts which we have recovered (that I've seen at least) were completed long after the 4th century BC. If I had to guess I would assume the correlation of frequency is with the peak of Rome's wealth, so the majority seem to come from 1st century BC to...
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    Etruscan DNA: Tarquinia, ninth–seventh century BC, central Italy

    With the exception of individual 11, the new Etruscan samples look to overlap modern N. Italians with similar placement to the protovillanovan sample. This is also the same location as the Picenes.
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