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I do not know for sure based on the current data. My own theoretical interpretation is that e-m123* was mediated to Europe in the Imperial Roman period either directly from the Middle East or from ancient Anatolia - and this happened as part of the so-called “east-med shift” where Hellenized...

I posted this 8 years ago so now I know this haplogroup formed in the Middle East; although the story of its migration to Europe is still complicated. Yfull is giving the TMRCA of 1500 to 1300 BC as time of migration which predates pretty much every historical tribe including Phoenicians.

Saudi Arabia was strangely the only place lacking E-pf4428 in the ME region - seems now that changes if this prediction is correct.

Interesting to see 1st sample from Hungary @kingjohn - there is also one in Eastern Austria.

Hobbits - R1b-L21 (Celtic) / G2a (EEF related) Gondor - R1b-U106 / J2a / I1 (seems to be some sort of Germanic/Byzantine mix) Numenor - R1b-Z2103 / R1a-Z93 (PIE) Rohan - R1a-Z93 / some Q1a/c (Steppe-related) Dwarves - J2a / J1 / G2a (Caucaso-Anatolian metal foragers?) Easterlings - E-M34 / E-M84...

Are you tested deeper confirming that you are E-m123* (E-PF4428) or just have the basal E-m123 ?

Yes, autosomally he appears to be assimilated. Per TheYtree his TMRCA is 1950 YPB and this sample if it is from the 7th century AD, then that's like 600 years - more than enough time. Still amazes me that he is not from the EU branch. So allegedly, Italy now has the E-y31991 branch and also the...

Pontid type it seems, a Mediterranean sub-type found around the Black Sea.

That's a very interesting find! Would YFull accept this file as well? Interestingly, he falls within the Middle-Eastern branch of E-PF4428, not the European. TheYtree gave him TMRCA of 1950 years, which sounds very Imperial Roman.

Try the nightclub Vzorkovna - it is a nice tourist place.

Thank you for this info KingJohn. Btw, as you said you were interested to see e-m123* from Italy - there is one sample in the E-m35 project but unfortunately it is not a bigY but a STR prediction: 233257 -- BY45422>BY36852>BY45418? No info of which city. E-BY45418 so far has 2 Germans...

Kind of wonder about some trolls showing up just to discredit the authenticity of this paper.

South Asian 0.61 Caucasus 16.78 Southwest Asian 6.86 North Amerindian + Arctic 0.75 Siberian 0.45 Mediterranean 21.78 East Asian - West African - East European 28.49 North Atlantic 24.28

Kinda similar results with mine: Population Amerindian - Ancestor - Steppe 17.27 Indian - Arctic 0.41 Australian 0.11 Caucasian 29.53 EastAfrican - NorthEastEuropean 21.23 NearEast 2.53 Neolithic 26.83 NorthAfrican 0.93 Oceanic...

If that's correct then their info is quite misleading. Here's the text after you finish your account: Welcome to Living DNA. You now have a lifetime membership where you will be able to view your ancestry breakdown in ever expanding detail...

I took part with my raw data/details but also can't understand what exactly they'll provide after the "Status: Awaiting testing": - Free estimates? - Estimates for cash? - Nothing? Anyone with more info?

S-Indian 0.21 Baloch 6.85 Caucasian 22.33 NE-Euro 36.58 SE-Asian - Siberian 0.88 NE-Asian - Papuan 0.82 American 0.90 Beringian - Mediterranean 24.78 SW-Asian 6.65 Pretty normal for the region I believe, still not sure what Caucasus stands for...

# Population Percent 1 Caucasian 29.53 2 Neolithic 26.83 3 NorthEastEuropean 21.23 4 Steppe 17.27 5 NearEast 2.53 6 Oceanic 1.16 7 NorthAfrican 0.93 8 Arctic 0.41 9 Australian 0.11 Single Population Sharing: # Population...

Not the best coloring skills but anyway; pretty Balkan picture for me.

Sorry for the late response. Yes, lots of weird stuff are popping out with the Dna researches. But for the Balkans the only real autosomal results are South Europe and East Europe, everything else is a matter of random-like interpretations as I see it. When I wrote the first post I wasn't...