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Thank you very much! Could you tell us from which project are the maps?

Hard to tell but there are people which believe VEN is actually for Venusia (Basilicata). Autosomal results for VEN samples are in favour of more southern position.

Interesting assumption. :smile:

What light?

I2a-CTS10228 is: - haplogroup found in Eastern Europe only (if we exclude modern day migrations) - haplogroup which has highest frequency in the Balkans compared to other haplogroups - its older branches and closest relatives are found in Northern Europe only (NOT in the Balkans) - closest...

Do you actually know what I2a-CTS10228 is ? Plus, I did not mention Slavic tribe in my post...

With each new development in the field of genetics that has connection with the topic of this thread, there is more and more evidence that I2a-CTS10228, R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 were not present in Southeast Europe 2000 years ago. When people recognize that, it will be much easier to discuss about...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2253976/table/tbl2/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2253976/

After aDNA results from Motala and Loschbour, there are now four I2a-P37.2 branches with common SNPs older than I2a-CTS5966 and at the same time specific for different parts of Western Europe. Only that fifth and the youngest is specific for Eastern Europe. The older four are: I2a-M26 I2a-L178*...

@FrankN I respect your effort but, I guess that if you would've been aware of existence of I2a-Isles and I2a-Disles you would never have written such a post: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/I2a-L161/ http://i2aproject.blogspot.com/2013/12/from-2010-updated-haplogroup-i2a-tree.html

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/haplogroupi.shtml

That can't be an evidence only an argument. It is also very week argument for what you are saying. It can only be a solid argument for claiming that not all I2a-Din is brought by Slavs, but some of I2a-Din could possibly originate from old Dacians. And it very much depends on that if all...

As far as I investigated I could not put together a comprehensive story about the origin of the Vlachs. The way I see it, is that it is covered by the darkness of the Middle Ages. So maybe someone else could try...

I don't see any people living there.

I think that when you said that the most of Sarajevo inhabitants originate from Herzegovina was much more valuable for the discussion.

It is for the other people on the forum...

Then you may know better where do todays inhabitants of Sarajevo originate from? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sarajevo#Early_Ottoman_Era

Most of the Balkans are mountains. Actually if you look more careful you will see that I2a-Din settled on what can be considered the best land. Dalmatian and Herzegovian fields, plains in Macedonia etc...

1. There are two different R1b populations in the Balkans. The older one R1b-M269(xL51) which has nothing to do with Celts and its distribution pattern is almost identical with E-V13 (you wrote E-M78 which is ancestral to E-V13). They even correlate in Italy. The second one is R1b-U152, which...

It would be strange if you have never seen this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Slavic_peoples_6th_century_historical_map.jpg