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https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2121024119 Here’s another publication that claims a correlation between forensic (and consequently genealogical) STR counts and medically relevant gene expression, supporting that selection pressure is probably a significant factor for yDNA lineage survival.

https://bellbeakerblogger.blogspot.com/2014/08/getting-taller-study-on-european-height.html https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/86/9/4147/2848612 Relevant publications. We know that Bell Beakers tend to be tall. It is also known that there are genes for height in yDNA. There is probably...

You should read Dr. Flood's publication on L21 phylogeny if you haven't already. Although dominated by the initial burst in early Isles Bell Beaker, expansion did occur in multiple waves of bottlenecks and growth. The main point I was trying to make is that many people are apparently puzzled...

" surely ALL P312 cannot be fathers of L21, DF27, U152! I don' think ONE man suddenly migrated elsewhere, giving birth to thousands of sons in two or three generations! So it's a part of the P312 that moved, among them first L21 (maybe, or rather, surely, the mutated male gave birth immediately...

You make some good arguments, but I think you misunderstand the point I'm making. I'm not saying that L21 is exceptional among modern extant lineages. I'm saying that L21 is exceptional among ALL lineages, including all those that are now extinct. Many extant lineages have a dominant initial...

"could be the ancestros of the subsequent L21, DF27 and U152." Almost certainly NOT! The paternal ancestor of L21 is one single man per generation. Archaeologists dig up a small random sample of a much larger population. The odds that you happen to get lucky and randomly put a shovel in the...

“Besides, I don't believe too much in physical selection for these haplo's, rather in a political/cultural selection (sexually unbalanced mating” By iron age there were already thousands of descendants of L21, competing against thousands of xL21, yet L21 continued to expand favorably. So how...

The mistake I see people frequently make is in assuming that, because L21, U152, and DF27 are the branches still extant, those are the same branches that would have been dominant in early Bell Beaker, failing to recognize that there would have been many other branches at the time that were...

I know this post was made long ago, but I’m new to this forum and just now came across it. I often encountered this same confusion on Anthrogenica, and have noticed that there is a prevalent misconception among the community of how genetic selection works. People think, “because Bell Beaker...

Some of the most meaningful discussions took place there. Unfortunately, the moderation was draconian, and most of the best contributors didn’t stick around long. A new guy would show up, and I’d think, “finally, a real pro in the field with some insight,” and within a couple weeks they’d be...

Can you tell me who the owner and other admin’s/mod‘s of this new forum are (former Anthrogenica monikers)? I would never even consider participating unless I knew who was managing it, and was confident that they’d be even handed moderators.

The problem was not one of political discussions occurring. It was that any mention of racial differentiation would get you on the admin’s shit list, and then he’d be primed to ban you. It coupled with the other issues of moderation bias I mentioned, which were the main problem.

Agree, the aim should be to minimize it as a topic of discussion, and it wasn’t a huge problem at Anthrogenica. Many forums tend to get gunked up with ethnic squabbling. But I’ve seen the chief admin of Anthrogenica say things like, “there’s no such thing as race.” - Um, can you please explain...

I see she is still wailing as loudly and obnoxiously as ever. Some day she WILL succeed at breaking that champagne glass. LOL

“Anthrogenica is closing” Oh thank god it’s over! The main problem with the site was that it was an authoritarian dictatorship. There was a clique of moderators and select members who always took sides in every argument. Forum rules would be used as a pretext to censor those who took the...